you realize most of the area by land in oregon and washington is very very red. and in a secession scenario they have a shitload more guns than the cities.

and even the parts that are less red probably wouldn't want to pipe the water down to cali latifundia. a lot of that area seems very culturally independent so i doubt they'd like being the breadbasket for something like the cali big cities.

and regardless yeah y'all do because population along the coast is very dense. you don't have enough space there to grow all that food for especially the big cali cities.

we don't need y'all, though.