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Comment by grandpoobah | Hacker News Reader

A website design that perfectly captures how programmers feel about Java. Unremarkable, bland, corporate, boring. No passion, no feeling of progress. Just boring old Java being boring old Java.

Microsoft's .NET site is far more appealing - https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/

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IDK why .NET site is also extremely... Microsofty. A lot of buttons that I never want to click.

Rust or Go sites are more appealing. https://www.rust-lang.org/ https://go.dev/

Python one seems more dated. https://www.python.org/

Don't know about you, but I personally want Java and the JVM to be boring. It's a foundation for some systems I use like a TI embedded programming IDE based on Eclipse and my use of Clojure. I want it to do its job with as little excitement as possible.

When people say they want boring tech what they usually mean is something along the lines of "stable", "predictable" and perhaps without change for the sake of change.

The java website to me is more boring in the sense of soulless and corporate.

The Microsoft .NET site is so much noise. Maybe it’s all relevant. Maybe all the information I need Is on that page. But shit there’s a point where simple IS better. If I’m going to Java.com it’s for 2 reasons: to download the JDK or look at documentation. The simplicity of the site gets out of my way to do just that.

The new java.com site isn't just boring, its bad. It looks like a domain parking page. With so little content it manages to use two different font stacks and 6 different font sizes.

I think part of the problem is that they haven't given up on Java.com being a consumer website. From https://www.java.com/en/download/help/whatis_java.html

> Java.com, this website, is intended for consumers who may still require Java for their desktop applications

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