And if you go look at the breakdown of the two cars, there isn't really anything that makes the ID.4 stand out in terms of technology.
And in terms of software/electronics its clearly not as advanced, VM even clearly admits this.
Its better value to be sure.
They got some money to demonstrate the technology and they did. They never committed or were required rolling this technology out on a large scale. And it was really not that much money.
If that is the example you go to, you are really deep in the barrel to come up with something.
But I guess one person is douche on twitter and that whats most important.
My guess is you don't like their handling of developing FSD. That seems to be the most often mentioned on here.
To be fair, even the name is misleading. It's not fully-self-driving.
Yeah, a dispute with the SEC about the meaning of a twit is much more important for the world then the millions of children breathing unhealthy air.
Really details of security law that basically hurt nobody except some short term traders as most really is the most important thing in the world.
> horrendous Vegas loop
Seems like that is for the costumer to decide and they were happy and even want to extend the system. But I guess twitters opinion
> pumping dogecoin
Talking about something you like is not illegal. In fact by just mentioning dogecoin you made it more famous and pumped it.
Unless you can prove pump-and-dump scheme its totally irrelevant.
> teslas removal from ESG
You mean the index where oil companies are ESG compliant and Tesla isn't. Yeah that really is far more important then lying millions of cars gas output. Like, why would you even care about that?
Wow. Is this the kind of society you want? One where the richest man in the world can profit from securities fraud? If us peons can’t commit fraud, neither should Elon. Shit, by your logic we should all be out committing financial crimes right now! FYI it wasn’t a dispute he settled for 20MM, but he’s rich enough to not care.
Don’t forget about about solar city, where musk knowingly purchased a distressed company owned by his cousin without disclosing the info to shareholders. Add nepotism to my list please.
Also note his ongoing twitter acquisition. He’s clearly manipulating the stock price to get a better deal AFTER agreeing to the purchase and waiving due diligence. He’s being sued.
On the Vegas loop, he delivered nothing close to what was promised. The carbon/man hours expended building that horribly inefficient Tesla advertisement could’ve been used to created a reasonable transit system.
On dogecoin…lol. You can’t be serious. He’s promoting an obvious joke as a serious financial asset to uneducated, poor “investors”. Dogecoin is down 90%.
Thanks for ignoring the FSD beta testing and union stuff.
He’s been accused of sexual misconduct, called that Thai dude a pedo, and became ultra rich off countless empty promises. We were supposed to have FSD, a mars colony, neuralink and a hyper loop by now. He’s sold bullshit all the way to the top and STILL receives subsidies from the government…then turns around and sells them to the polluting auto companies he claims to replace.
Better to lie to the detriment of the environment than to the detriment of the consumer like Tesla does.
What VW did is essentially what developing countries do for their citizens by declaring bogus CO2 numbers in order to make the IPCC/UN/COP happy and keep granting the welfare and quality of life of their citizens providing energy they badly need to live like they deserve.
Too bad they got caught, hopefully the model can be replicated by TATA and Great Wall Co. Ltd as well as other car manufacturers which are located in jurisdictions which are not subject to the ESG tyranny.
Vehicles aren't a societal purchase, they are an individual's purchase. They should maximize the welfare of the individual who pays up the money.
I'd be disappointed if VW didn't keep researching ways to get around emission targets for the benefit of the consumer and against ESG tyranny.