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But why specifically in Bucha? Is this about Russians being obliged to retreat, and committing atrocities on the way out? Or is this going on in other places Russians still hold, and we only found it about it in Bucha, specifically, because they are out? Can we expect similar revelations in each place they are forced out of?

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The world isn't ready to understand what has happened in Mariupol. Like the other commenter said, it will be uncovered once Russian forces retreat, and is ten times the destruction.

I, personally, am very concerned about Mariupol, the Russians there are free to do whatever they want (torture, rape, etc..). As they are there for quite some time already, they also had time to cover up their wrongdoings which is even more concerning.

you should be concerned yes:

https://rumble.com/vzj5jh-ukraine-mariupol-residents-speak-a...

You can stop your Russian propaganda op: https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1511067472803282950

Sad how you still haven't learned after Russia repeatedly lied to you about how it wasn't going to invade Ukraine.

Your link is about Bucha, the person that you are replying to is talking about Mariupol.

The world isn't ready to understand that the Russians aren't going to retreat from Mariupol, that land bridge to Crimea through the important port of Mariupol was always the key point of the invasion.

Four weeks ago, people said the entire Ukrainian state was no match for the Russian army spearheading towards Kyiv. Today, the entire north of the country is free due to Ukrainian resistance. There are no givens. Ukraine may be able to retain their entire country.

The Bucha was taken by the Russians and, as they are retreating to theirs border right now, the Bucha is now again in Ukraine hands and now it became possible to document the atrocities.

This Wikipedia article and most reporting is a mess.

"Mayor Anatoly Fedoruk, "hundreds of Russian soldiers" were also among the bodies" - so you will also expect hundreds of dead Ukrainians who fought to be buried in the mass grave. That is not a "massacre", that would be war.

We know the media constantly lies about mass graves and what they are, see the Canadian schools or New York and Hart Island.

What they do seem to have evidence of is very bad for Russia. So Russia lost control of the troops in the area. It should have not happened or should have been cleaned up. So far Russia seems to have structurally failed everywhere, so I'd expect more of this.

There seems to be no evidence Chechens were in the area. That would be an alternate explanation of why Russia couldn't control these troops.

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