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Why are you lumping China with the actual invaders? There's the Taiwan mess, and China don't participate in the sanctions regime, but it's not the same thing as actively invading. ( For the record, i think that sanctioning Russia is the morally correct thing to do)

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It's simply because it's way overdue. China does countless things I can't support and for me this was the stick that broke the camel's back.

China could easily tell Russia to knock it off.

They can't. Going against Russia means supporting USA, which is currently China's number one enemy.

Hong Kong

Tibet, too.

Tibet has been already managed by cn gov for more than 80 yrs. Many roads and railways are under construction. I can't see what problem in Tibet.

China refuses to condemn Russia and is towing their "peacekeeping" "denazification" line.

I have seen other statements.

> Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi deplored the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, calling it a “war” and saying that he is “extremely concerned” about the harm to civilians, his office said in a statement following a call with his Ukrainian counterpart, Dmytro Kuleba.

Source: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/bloomberg/eu-approves-list-to-c...

Unfortunately I think it's a mistranslation.

None of the Chinese language media reports him calling it a "war", but instead only a "conflict".

Official source disclosing the same call: http://www.gov.cn/guowuyuan/2022-03/01/content_5676356.htm

No longer, today they said they'll work for peace and condemn the violence.

Nope, as of 7 hours ago China merely "regrets" the violence necessitated by the "legitimate national security claims" of Russia.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/ch/component/k2/1636556-20220301.h...

Do you have a source?

China is currently having about 18 border disputes. Amongst all the non land grabbing stuff they are doing.

That's ridiculous. Japan has a load of border disputes, and pacifism is literally written into their constitution. Most countries in east asia have them.

Japan claiming a few island is different to China claiming the whole south china sea and expanding its imaginary 9 dash line.

So trying to bring Japan into this is just ridiculous.

... The whole point about claiming islands is that they include an EEZ (exclusive economic zone). That's how you claim a 'whole sea'.

Of course, the real reason people argue over islands because it gets idiots riled up (Abe and successors depend on the nationalist vote, Xi depends on the nationalist faction, etc) and because geography in the far east is a mess of contradictions, so it's easy to make a plausible claim.

Foreign people getting excited over it is like a whole new meta level of stupidity.

Good thing I’m not a foreign people.

While not on top of the news cycle, the continuing un-freeing of Hong Kong, the treatment of the Uyghur population, and likely a number of other things, qualify for pastrami_pasta's “happening right now” description.

They are committing genocide, run concentration camps and forced labour. They actively threat Taiwan. That's more than enough to justify avoiding them.

They are not committing genocide. https://undocs.org/pdf?symbol=en/A/HRC/41/G/17

You're link is dead. Here [1] is a fairly nuanced take that concludes that most scholars would call what is happening "genocide," particularly due to the forced sterilizations.

Regardless of whether it matches everyone's exact definition, it's clearly an atrocity.

1. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/is-china-committing-g...

Try this one: https://undocs.org/A/HRC/41/G/17

UN representatives didn't characterize the situation as a genocide.

Following the 'forced sterilization' link from the article you linked brought me to this one: https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-we...

In there, they say frame it as an attack on minorities, but then they describe it as being applicable to people who already have 3 or more children. They just finished up a 1 child policy for the entire country and the Han majority are still reproducing below replacement levels.

There is plenty to disagree with about their policies, but it's not genocide.

It seems like some people really wanted a war with China, and are very upset that they got a war with Russia instead.

Just wait a couple weeks until they get relobotomized by CNN & Friends, then they won't really care about whom they are going to war with so long as they throw enough bombs around

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