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And yet they have a Jewish president and a Jewish prime minister. Perhaps this group is not representative of Ukraine as a whole?

Jews also fought for Hitler during WW II, so I don't exactly see your point. Additionally, considering Ukraine enacted a language law in 2019 and a racial law in 2021 and that specific group is part of the National Guard, it should give you something to think about.

> Jews also fought for Hitler during WW II, so I don't exactly see your point

I'm going to have to ask for a source here. Jews formed ghetto polices, and Sonderkommando units, that's true. But that was done under duress in terrible circumstances, and certainly isn't "fighting".

"Hitler's Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" by Bryan Mark Rigg.

Googling, there is also an interesting article here: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/ell...

The whole article is about how conflicted these people were. Also, the details of what was happening to the Jews only surfaced at the end of the war. Before that Hitler was peddling stories of shipping them off to an island on the Bahamas, and broad public antisemitism wasn't limited to Germany in the 1930s, so a lot of people were fine with this.

Uhm, did you actually read the whole article or did you have different words than I had? The most relevant part is even pretty early in the article. Also, it's a fact that Hebrew is restriced too, just like Russian, Polish etc etc etc.

Apologies, I was reading a review of Rigg's work from 1996: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-12-24-mn-12209-...

Ah, that has to have been just part of it then, as the book was released in 2002.

So - these are 1000 people you're talking about. You're saying that because of these 1000 people it's OK to invade a nation of 44 million people. And kill hundreds. Check notes Nope, still doesn't make sense.

More specifically, 20% of 1000 people. The rest are just hard-right.

Russia also has its fair share of neo nazi's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity

Remark the funny part of where these Russian Neo Nazi's were fighting: "In 2014, RNU members joined pro-Russian forces in Ukraine during the War in Donbass[11] under commandment of Pavel Gubarev.[12]

Strange that 1 neo nazi group would fight another neo nazi group... right?

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-who-are-russian-neo...

It's based on claims though ("Head of Ukraine's Jewish community claims Russian neo-Nazis fight alongside rebels"). However, it's irrelevant because you don't seem to know what a nazi is. So, two neo-nazi groups fighting each other makes perfect sense if they are from different countries. While part of the basis is the same, the other part is opposed to each other. For your information: Nazi = Nationalsozialist = _national_ socialist. While some groups put less emphasis on the extreme nationalism part, others do not.

Sure, I can agree it's based on claims.

I just wanted to illustrate that the same can be said on both sides.

Maybe we should do a "special operations" in Russia to clear it from Nazi's, just as Russia is doing to Ukraine right now.

The difference is that the Ukraine has language and racial laws (as written in another comment) while Russia supports minority groups by providing TV channels and radio programs in their language.

> has language and racial laws (as written in another comment)

Great reference "another comment". Can you show an actual reference?

The comment where I mentioned it is also part of the whole tree, so you just need to look above a bit. If you mean a link to the actual law on the Ukrainian government website, it could take a bit. I don't speak Ukrainian. Then again, it seems kinda lazy on your part to just not look for it yourself. Also, considering you are taking part in the discussion, you should know the necessary background and be informed. I also remember one article in English looking at the racial law, although from a different perspective (it still covered what is written in it though).

If you make accusations, it's up to you to prove them, not me. Goes to show how arrogant you really are.

You showed your colors. Russia will have to bear the consequences of their actions.

The brave people of Ukraine are defending their country like heroes, when Putin is cowardly watching from afar.

Our conversation ends here.

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