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Another example might be bagels, which are manufactured products, hence more putative liability.

> “Americans ate an estimated 3 billion bagels at home in 2011, an average of about 11 per person ... in the course of slicing up all those bagels, almost 2,000 people cut their fingers so badly that they ended up in an emergency room.

> By the finger-cut-to-E.R. metric, that makes bagel-cutting the fifth most dangerous activity in the American kitchen.

https://www.newyorkerbagels.com/blogs/bagels/bagel-safety-do...

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Why are we discussing this here?

A bagel sitting on a shelf isn't going to cut you up.

Bose QC-35 II headphones, apparently, may catch on fire and cause chemical burns when touched.

Analogies are great for illustrating a point, but if you say "this thing is just like that other one", you need to argue why that's the case first.

Product, in ordinary usage, might be implicated in injury to user.

I don't have an argument here, except that bagels might be a better example than avocados, because bagels are a manufactured product.

In either case, a knife is required for the injury to occur, so I agree that the comparison to spontaneous headphone combustion is not great.

> Bose QC-35 II headphones, apparently, may catch on fire and cause chemical burns when touched.

Not if never charged (IIUC). Of course they probably come with chargers and are never used without them, but does anyone buy uncut bagels and not cut them?

The charger needs not be present for injury.

If you really want to stick to the bagel analogy, it's as if the bagel stabbed you back with a knife after you cut it and set the knife aside.

I hope you would find such backstabbing bagels problematic.

Bagel is a bad example here if fingers were cut by a knife. Most people thought by parents how to use a knife safely, but probably not all. Thought I doubt that anyone would read a manual for a knife and then follow it.

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