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what is the truth that ancient aliens is revealing? that people are gullible? i don’t get it

So called "ancient astronaut theory," is an ideology. The premise is the hypothetical that earth was once inhabited by extraterrestrials, and then when you view archeology and history through that lens, and provide explanations for any outstanding questions or uncertainties using this underlying assumption as a premise (could it be aliens? ancient astronaut theorists say yes!), you have a complete and very accessible critical theory of history that is very entertaining bunk.

I could write the same series as Ancient Objectivists, Ancient Anarchists, Ancient Socialists, Ancient Elites, etc. The details they use as justification do not illuminate the subject, they use archeological and historical stories as evidence of their theory - it's all the same thing.

The reason people get the satisfying feeling of "it all makes sense" is because the one stupid idea seems to be reinforced by relatively neutral facts, when in fact, it's just a dumb idea displayed along side facts.

Hey bud, I made a reply on this thread and now feel guilty about it. I’ve got nothing against you and you’re a wickedly smart person. Please please please don’t think I was mocking you or anything you believe. You’re a wickedly smart person and a talented writer. Those are the only opinions I have about you. Okay???

I have strong opinions about some of the cats who publish these ideas. Those opinions in no way inform the opinion I have of you.

I consider it a supreme privilege to have these thoughts read by anyone at all, so really, thank you, no issues here at all, even if someone (else) takes shots. This is public discouse, and sometimes it gets bumptuous. :)

Seriously friend, I don’t want to take shots at you. You’re cool and I have precisely zero reasons to take shots at you. You’re (likely) good in my books - I only wrote about David Icke.

If you feel I took a shot at you, I apologize. That was not my intent, but I behaved like a brute. That was completely wrong and I’m sorry. I have no excuses only sorrow. :(

Edit - Sorry, I forgot to mention that I really dig your attitude. I was a dick and I’m sorry.

> Please please please don’t think I was mocking you or anything you believe. You’re a wickedly smart person and a talented writer. Those are the only opinions I have about you. Okay???

Why do you sound like you just found out motohagiography has high-level connections to the mob? Honestly this entire thread is starting to trigger my schizoid tendencies because I have no idea what half the people in it are talking about.

The simplest answer is that I was an asshole. Someone posted an idea and someone else asked for clarification. Rather than act like an adult, I put on my dickbag hat and shit all over the idea. My issue is with David Icke yet for some incomprehensible reason, I jumped into a thread that didn’t involve me and added my own personal shit.

I injected David Icke rather than give Motohagiography the chance to explain their own words. At best, I was a bully.

It was wrong of me and I fucked up. I could have behaved like an adult and made a difference. Instead I acted like a brute and made a spectacle. What the fuck was the point of any of that???

Edit - I have a better way to describe it. I acted like a racist! I saw signs of David Icke and turned dick. A more adult adult would have shut the fuck up…alas, I’m bad at that.

Edit 2 - If I was writing about someone else, I would have used the words “complete fucking asshole”. Let me restate. The simplest answer is that I was a complete fucking asshole. :)

Thanks for calling me out bud! :)

I think it’s puzzling for some of us that someone might be so apologetic and deferential for speaking their mind in a text forum - this is what we’re all here for, free association; someone’s post reminds you of David Icke and projection of meaning, by all means tell us all about it.

edit: I’m not the person you’re replying to

You’re making a lot of assumptions.

First, you’re assuming that I came across David Icke by chance. I didn’t. Someone I love has schizophrenia and is currently homeless. David Icke was part of his path. Fuck David Icke.

Second, you’re assuming I have no compassion. What if someone reading this is sick?? I can be a dickbag or possibly set myself up as someone worth confiding in.

I’ll err on the side of being someone worth confiding in. Sorry bud but your opinion isn’t very important to me.

Ok well now you have to apologize to jazzyjackson

For what it's worth (although I'm not motohagiography) I didn't read your comment upthread as an attack on the commenter. Warnings about this stuff can be appropriate, because it's seductive. You did a bit of conclusion-jumping, but misreading the original comment was an easy mistake to make -- it's pretty dense.

I guess we deserve this for clicking into a crypto-zoology thread but I’m right there with you

I’m going to make this a separate reply because it’s important. “Schizoid” tendencies might just be a turn of phrase. If so, it’s insensitive but I can’t stop you.

If that’s not just a turn of phrase and you’re being serious, you can find a lot of good in medical science. If you need someone to go with you, I’m based in Canada but have a passport. My email is in my profile and anything you send stays between us unless you’re planning on harming yourself. Then seriously holmes, it’s on.

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