Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did
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I would seriously consider donating to a cryptozoology scholarship fund.
Could you expound on this? I’m afraid I don’t quite understand what you are saying
Forget this. There’s nothing good in Icke. I’ve seen way too many brilliant hackers get sucked into David Icke’s bullshit on their way to a crash.
If you still really need closure, I can sum it up as the royal family, the elite and the ‘Illuminati’ are lizards, descended from aliens. Find architects who designed buildings for the Baha’i faith, then trace their contributions back to North American parliaments, legislatures and the like. Find the allusions to the Baha’i faith, find the allusions to Freemasonry and then you’ll see the projection of reality. Once you’ve seen the projection, you’re free from it.
Be safe. If you want to rap about the ideas with someone reasonably safe, I’m Greg and my email is in my profile. If you’re getting lost, I’ll give you my phone number.
Be safe and healthy.
Edit - The danger of Icke is that he takes basic geometry and civil engineering and somehow turns them into conspiracy. If you’re remotely scientific, you’ll see signs of Icke all around you. But some principles are principles because they work. We don’t need conspiracy theories to explain how professions grow.
Edit 2 - Don’t google David Icke. You’ll want the time back and I can’t offer refunds. :(
If this startup thing doesn’t work out, maybe I’ll just start a cult. :)
Edit - The second paragraph was a bad attempt at a joke. Don’t start cults. Fuck David Icke.
It's still in the same general territory as QAnon and the fact that 1/5 Americans drinks that kool-aid fills me with despair (and fear).
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/study-finds-...
I know you’re not being serious but unfortunately many people are in this kind of thinking. All over society are movements and groupthink driven by a small group of people that realized that you can get a whole lot of money and power by making people believe outlandish things.
But I know, it is less fun, when you have to deal with people who takes that shit serious.
All kidding aside, lunatics. Just reading his Wikipedia page (I'll plug it once more [1]) sheds enough light in the BS. Though, as long as you take it for what it is (fiction, comedy, propaganda?) its all good entertainment. Problem is, for most followers, it isn't entertainment... there's probably hordes of people not using safe medication, birth control, vaccines because of fellows like this :-(
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vusamazulu_Credo_Mutwa#%22Rept...
Robert Anton Wilson has some interesting personal experiments about this in his book Prometheus Rising, where you go looking for a quarter on the ground under different personal contexts[2]. Other instances are things like the 23 enigma[3] or ancient aliens.
I took motohagiography's comment to be on this phenomenon, where the state of mind, or how you prime the mind (e.g. with images or ideas), changes what you tend to find. It can be applied in all sorts of contexts -- prime the mind with ideas like conspiracy theories, and you see them everywhere. Fnord.
[1] http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/23.php
[2] https://nevalalee.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/looking-for-quart...
If you can find confirmation bias funny, like next level hilarious (especially when you are into the lettuce) you can find anything funny I suppose. But still, I laugh a through each episode and can't watch the news anymore because once you've seen it, you can't not. Cryptozoology is the same kind of game of pretend.
Looking forward to leaving the house more in 2022.
The novel Foucault's Pendulum is a book about this mindset; the Illuminatus! trilogy is too in a way, though it's more experiential than descriptive. There are a few non-fiction books, though I'm blanking on the key author's name. For a very contemporary non-fiction (albeit opinionated) take see A Game Designer's Analysis of QAnon https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analy...
I don't know if he is who you had in mind, but Robert Anton Wilson -- who was one of the writers on the Illuminatus! trilogy -- has at least two non-fiction books on it. One is Prometheus Rising, the other is Quantum Psychology: How Brain Software Programs You and Your World. They are both a series of essays with exercises at the end of each chapter. If I remember correctly, Quantum Psychology was more about language and semantics, and Prometheus Rising was more about belief systems and viewpoints.
Quantum Psychology is both written in and a guide to E-Prime, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime (Edit, via wiki: 'E-Prime refers to a version of the English language that excludes all forms of the verb to be, including all conjugations, contractions and archaic forms. Some scholars advocate using E-Prime as a device to clarify thinking and strengthen writing.')
I had two books in mind that I was completely misremembering as by the same author. In fact they are by two different journalists. The United States of Paranoia and Voodoo Histories: The Role of the Conspiracy Theory in Shaping Modern History.
The general theme or oomph of the point is that the world, and beliefs we hold tend to converge on certain structural relationships because they just work. Even if it isn't a concrete 100% accurate description of what we see in front of us it just feels right, so we hit a mental stop point and go on about our day.
The belief literally feels good. To hell with reality, this is how it is. One of the tenets of Discordianism is there is no objective truth or order, as truth itself is just surprisingly convenient organizations of the fundamentally chaotic underpinnings of existence, and everyone sees things differently or different aspects of things thereof. We can all be looking at the same thing and see things completely differently, and in a strange sort of way, nobody is wrong. Fnord.
Therefore, as Eris dictates, there is no one true Discordianism, or world, as everyone's view of the world is true into and unto themselves. Fnord!
It can be disturbing to many, because it allows you to completely detach from all of your prior assumptions. Someone completely detached from everyone else's reality isn't terribly yuseful, but they are free to peer through the Chaos to find any momentary tendrils of direction that become revealed.
The original poster posited positive utility from applying these principles to any mode of thought in such a way as to identify when those belief structures have fallen or been distorted by the same mannerisms of thought that make equally quacky, though more mainstream ideas feel good, thusly revealing that the holder of the idea is in a state of mental metastatic equilibrium.
This makes the Discordian in the room a surprisingly strong catalyst for change, or at least the most aware of the set of Reality Distortion Fields at work/being projected by those in charge, and as a consequence, a threat to unified manipulation, and an escape hatch to individual notions of reality. Fnord
Hail Eris!
-A Discordian Malcontent
I could write the same series as Ancient Objectivists, Ancient Anarchists, Ancient Socialists, Ancient Elites, etc. The details they use as justification do not illuminate the subject, they use archeological and historical stories as evidence of their theory - it's all the same thing.
The reason people get the satisfying feeling of "it all makes sense" is because the one stupid idea seems to be reinforced by relatively neutral facts, when in fact, it's just a dumb idea displayed along side facts.
I have strong opinions about some of the cats who publish these ideas. Those opinions in no way inform the opinion I have of you.
If you feel I took a shot at you, I apologize. That was not my intent, but I behaved like a brute. That was completely wrong and I’m sorry. I have no excuses only sorrow. :(
Edit - Sorry, I forgot to mention that I really dig your attitude. I was a dick and I’m sorry.
Why do you sound like you just found out motohagiography has high-level connections to the mob? Honestly this entire thread is starting to trigger my schizoid tendencies because I have no idea what half the people in it are talking about.
I injected David Icke rather than give Motohagiography the chance to explain their own words. At best, I was a bully.
It was wrong of me and I fucked up. I could have behaved like an adult and made a difference. Instead I acted like a brute and made a spectacle. What the fuck was the point of any of that???
Edit - I have a better way to describe it. I acted like a racist! I saw signs of David Icke and turned dick. A more adult adult would have shut the fuck up…alas, I’m bad at that.
Edit 2 - If I was writing about someone else, I would have used the words “complete fucking asshole”. Let me restate. The simplest answer is that I was a complete fucking asshole. :)
Thanks for calling me out bud! :)
edit: I’m not the person you’re replying to
First, you’re assuming that I came across David Icke by chance. I didn’t. Someone I love has schizophrenia and is currently homeless. David Icke was part of his path. Fuck David Icke.
Second, you’re assuming I have no compassion. What if someone reading this is sick?? I can be a dickbag or possibly set myself up as someone worth confiding in.
I’ll err on the side of being someone worth confiding in. Sorry bud but your opinion isn’t very important to me.
If that’s not just a turn of phrase and you’re being serious, you can find a lot of good in medical science. If you need someone to go with you, I’m based in Canada but have a passport. My email is in my profile and anything you send stays between us unless you’re planning on harming yourself. Then seriously holmes, it’s on.
-Pope Wombatpm, KSC Burning Cow Cabal of lesser Chicago
And 1.9% percent are actually certifiable.
The reason they get so much press and social footprint is that people love to think of themselves as superior / smart.
Someone should do the same with Facebook ads. I wonder what somebody would feel and look like after engaging with every ad on the platform.
The first episode where Morgan and his girlfriend try to live on minimum wage in Ohio for a month is some of the best TV I've ever seen.
All the episodes are good, the ones with Morgan are the best.
The recent Super Size Me 2 is also pretty good. Not quite the charm of the first one, but still really good.
Sounds like Tamlin's 'assistant, a lawyer' is an id^H^H^H^H hasn't spent much time in the bush. BIG NOISE generally means: run fast and hide deep.
Chaos theorists might have a more philosophical take that is rich with enlightenment, layers of hidden meaning, and a deeper understanding of the universal meta-reality: must go faster.
This also explains why Facebook shows me wildly random ads for Viagra alternatives, yoga pants, conservative news, and better kitty litter than my current brand... All things which have no relevance to me, yet quite often triggering my urge to click "Hide Ad", but that too in itself is also a marker that creates a record I'm sure... What a mental health nightmare it's all turned into.
I log on a lot less to social media than I used to, and use AdBlock + UBlock everywhere ritually.
Well maybe if your cat practiced yoga, he wouldn't need better litter - or viagra.
I'm still thinking how to associate a cat on viagra with conservative news... maybe something about Bill O'Riley.
This is what it's all come to... hah.
Grandparents had a fit over me cutting FB. Grandkid pictures are a serious matter.
Scroll to the bottom of CNN - it's all rubbish ads. That's just the long tail of attention-scamming, it's not FB.
Also, FB learning algorithm is not some Orwellian disaster - the ads will get marginally better if you click them and that's it, I don't suggest there is any real harm there.
Google, on the other hand, is much more powerful and they know much more about you and the results they chalk up (that you depend upon for life, work) are geared to this.
Google doesn't have a 'Zuck' to pin it on, such is populism.
And FYI the 'big culprit' is VISA. They sell your data to FB and that's a big chunk of how FB learns. But it's not in the headlines, no Congressional 'Whistle blowers' etc., they fly under the radar.
Many companies get stuck on pleasing investors more than users once they reach that stage of monopoly after they've gone public, and that's why regulation kills them once opportunistic manipulation is exposed.
Unfortunately it takes a really bad/unfortunate consequence of their manipulation to occur before regulation properly steps in.
And no ads about viagra or yoga pants.
I'd say that FB ads generally can target much better than general web ads because they can track and profile you precisely, e.g. from your posts, comments, and other interactions. But at least you sign up for that when you agree with FB's EULA when creating an account. General web ads are worst: they try badly to track you to become more targeted, but can't get targeted enough to stop being annoyingly off the mark even if they wanted.
For the past 6 months, every single ad on Youtube (TV app) for me is about Indians singing something in Hindi... I wonder why that happens. I'm not Indian, I don't understand Hindi, and I'm not interested in Indian pop music. Yet Youtube thinks I'm a huge fan and I have no idea what to do about it.
A bit like my experience with a friends Android phone, cross-referencing data from the contacts app to associate e-mail addresses with phone numbers on Google services.
There must be a whole bunch of systems like this, that are never surfaced to the public except trough these occasional glitches in the Matrix that only very few people actually recognize.
So much this! Too often I will overthink why certain ads are shown to me, as I will notice how they overlap with search queries/purchases I've done recently.
Then I wonder why I didn't disable "targeted ads" in the settings for that service, when I go there to change, it's already disabled..
I was just released from jail.
Coincidence?
"Facebook recommended that this psychiatrist's patients friend each other"
https://splinternews.com/facebook-recommended-that-this-psyc...
that is a really important reality for interacting in society that I think we often miss in having discussions with others. Just because something is 'objectively true' or 'a fact' doesn't mean that everyone is aware of that fact, when people express surprise at knowledge new to them it seems odd to think that indicating others previously knew that information is somehow a helpful response?
After three reloads from what seems to be way too many interactive ads, the page crashed entirely. I got about one paragraph in before this: https://postimg.cc/2qQ3qPjy