I would seriously consider donating to a cryptozoology scholarship fund.
I would seriously consider donating to a cryptozoology scholarship fund.
Could you expound on this? I’m afraid I don’t quite understand what you are saying
Forget this. There’s nothing good in Icke. I’ve seen way too many brilliant hackers get sucked into David Icke’s bullshit on their way to a crash.
If you still really need closure, I can sum it up as the royal family, the elite and the ‘Illuminati’ are lizards, descended from aliens. Find architects who designed buildings for the Baha’i faith, then trace their contributions back to North American parliaments, legislatures and the like. Find the allusions to the Baha’i faith, find the allusions to Freemasonry and then you’ll see the projection of reality. Once you’ve seen the projection, you’re free from it.
Be safe. If you want to rap about the ideas with someone reasonably safe, I’m Greg and my email is in my profile. If you’re getting lost, I’ll give you my phone number.
Be safe and healthy.
Edit - The danger of Icke is that he takes basic geometry and civil engineering and somehow turns them into conspiracy. If you’re remotely scientific, you’ll see signs of Icke all around you. But some principles are principles because they work. We don’t need conspiracy theories to explain how professions grow.
Edit 2 - Don’t google David Icke. You’ll want the time back and I can’t offer refunds. :(
If this startup thing doesn’t work out, maybe I’ll just start a cult. :)
Edit - The second paragraph was a bad attempt at a joke. Don’t start cults. Fuck David Icke.
It's still in the same general territory as QAnon and the fact that 1/5 Americans drinks that kool-aid fills me with despair (and fear).
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/study-finds-...
I know you’re not being serious but unfortunately many people are in this kind of thinking. All over society are movements and groupthink driven by a small group of people that realized that you can get a whole lot of money and power by making people believe outlandish things.
But I know, it is less fun, when you have to deal with people who takes that shit serious.
All kidding aside, lunatics. Just reading his Wikipedia page (I'll plug it once more [1]) sheds enough light in the BS. Though, as long as you take it for what it is (fiction, comedy, propaganda?) its all good entertainment. Problem is, for most followers, it isn't entertainment... there's probably hordes of people not using safe medication, birth control, vaccines because of fellows like this :-(
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vusamazulu_Credo_Mutwa#%22Rept...
Robert Anton Wilson has some interesting personal experiments about this in his book Prometheus Rising, where you go looking for a quarter on the ground under different personal contexts[2]. Other instances are things like the 23 enigma[3] or ancient aliens.
I took motohagiography's comment to be on this phenomenon, where the state of mind, or how you prime the mind (e.g. with images or ideas), changes what you tend to find. It can be applied in all sorts of contexts -- prime the mind with ideas like conspiracy theories, and you see them everywhere. Fnord.
[1] http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/23.php
[2] https://nevalalee.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/looking-for-quart...
If you can find confirmation bias funny, like next level hilarious (especially when you are into the lettuce) you can find anything funny I suppose. But still, I laugh a through each episode and can't watch the news anymore because once you've seen it, you can't not. Cryptozoology is the same kind of game of pretend.
Looking forward to leaving the house more in 2022.
The novel Foucault's Pendulum is a book about this mindset; the Illuminatus! trilogy is too in a way, though it's more experiential than descriptive. There are a few non-fiction books, though I'm blanking on the key author's name. For a very contemporary non-fiction (albeit opinionated) take see A Game Designer's Analysis of QAnon https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analy...
I don't know if he is who you had in mind, but Robert Anton Wilson -- who was one of the writers on the Illuminatus! trilogy -- has at least two non-fiction books on it. One is Prometheus Rising, the other is Quantum Psychology: How Brain Software Programs You and Your World. They are both a series of essays with exercises at the end of each chapter. If I remember correctly, Quantum Psychology was more about language and semantics, and Prometheus Rising was more about belief systems and viewpoints.
Quantum Psychology is both written in and a guide to E-Prime, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime (Edit, via wiki: 'E-Prime refers to a version of the English language that excludes all forms of the verb to be, including all conjugations, contractions and archaic forms. Some scholars advocate using E-Prime as a device to clarify thinking and strengthen writing.')
I had two books in mind that I was completely misremembering as by the same author. In fact they are by two different journalists. The United States of Paranoia and Voodoo Histories: The Role of the Conspiracy Theory in Shaping Modern History.
-Pope Wombatpm, KSC Burning Cow Cabal of lesser Chicago
The general theme or oomph of the point is that the world, and beliefs we hold tend to converge on certain structural relationships because they just work. Even if it isn't a concrete 100% accurate description of what we see in front of us it just feels right, so we hit a mental stop point and go on about our day.
The belief literally feels good. To hell with reality, this is how it is. One of the tenets of Discordianism is there is no objective truth or order, as truth itself is just surprisingly convenient organizations of the fundamentally chaotic underpinnings of existence, and everyone sees things differently or different aspects of things thereof. We can all be looking at the same thing and see things completely differently, and in a strange sort of way, nobody is wrong. Fnord.
Therefore, as Eris dictates, there is no one true Discordianism, or world, as everyone's view of the world is true into and unto themselves. Fnord!
It can be disturbing to many, because it allows you to completely detach from all of your prior assumptions. Someone completely detached from everyone else's reality isn't terribly yuseful, but they are free to peer through the Chaos to find any momentary tendrils of direction that become revealed.
The original poster posited positive utility from applying these principles to any mode of thought in such a way as to identify when those belief structures have fallen or been distorted by the same mannerisms of thought that make equally quacky, though more mainstream ideas feel good, thusly revealing that the holder of the idea is in a state of mental metastatic equilibrium.
This makes the Discordian in the room a surprisingly strong catalyst for change, or at least the most aware of the set of Reality Distortion Fields at work/being projected by those in charge, and as a consequence, a threat to unified manipulation, and an escape hatch to individual notions of reality. Fnord
Hail Eris!
-A Discordian Malcontent
I could write the same series as Ancient Objectivists, Ancient Anarchists, Ancient Socialists, Ancient Elites, etc. The details they use as justification do not illuminate the subject, they use archeological and historical stories as evidence of their theory - it's all the same thing.
The reason people get the satisfying feeling of "it all makes sense" is because the one stupid idea seems to be reinforced by relatively neutral facts, when in fact, it's just a dumb idea displayed along side facts.
I have strong opinions about some of the cats who publish these ideas. Those opinions in no way inform the opinion I have of you.
If you feel I took a shot at you, I apologize. That was not my intent, but I behaved like a brute. That was completely wrong and I’m sorry. I have no excuses only sorrow. :(
Edit - Sorry, I forgot to mention that I really dig your attitude. I was a dick and I’m sorry.
Why do you sound like you just found out motohagiography has high-level connections to the mob? Honestly this entire thread is starting to trigger my schizoid tendencies because I have no idea what half the people in it are talking about.
I injected David Icke rather than give Motohagiography the chance to explain their own words. At best, I was a bully.
It was wrong of me and I fucked up. I could have behaved like an adult and made a difference. Instead I acted like a brute and made a spectacle. What the fuck was the point of any of that???
Edit - I have a better way to describe it. I acted like a racist! I saw signs of David Icke and turned dick. A more adult adult would have shut the fuck up…alas, I’m bad at that.
Edit 2 - If I was writing about someone else, I would have used the words “complete fucking asshole”. Let me restate. The simplest answer is that I was a complete fucking asshole. :)
Thanks for calling me out bud! :)
edit: I’m not the person you’re replying to
First, you’re assuming that I came across David Icke by chance. I didn’t. Someone I love has schizophrenia and is currently homeless. David Icke was part of his path. Fuck David Icke.
Second, you’re assuming I have no compassion. What if someone reading this is sick?? I can be a dickbag or possibly set myself up as someone worth confiding in.
I’ll err on the side of being someone worth confiding in. Sorry bud but your opinion isn’t very important to me.
If that’s not just a turn of phrase and you’re being serious, you can find a lot of good in medical science. If you need someone to go with you, I’m based in Canada but have a passport. My email is in my profile and anything you send stays between us unless you’re planning on harming yourself. Then seriously holmes, it’s on.
And 1.9% percent are actually certifiable.
The reason they get so much press and social footprint is that people love to think of themselves as superior / smart.