Childless people pay taxes that go toward the education, childcare subsidies and healthcare for your children.
Childless people often put more effort into their work or volunteering contributions which is of net benefit to society.
Childless people often help friends and family raise their children (free childcare/baby sitting).
Childless people also realise they won't have children to look after them in their old age and many plan to have enough in retirement to pay for the additional help they need.
Why do you think only childless people blabber about social justice?
Notice: I am not saying you have to support other people's children. I'm just saying that when you grow old, you should make your own arrangements on how you fund your late years, because you probably count on "society" to support you, and this "society" would translate to "children of other people who I didn't raise"
Yeah, except having a child is a choice (Disgusting laws in TX notwithstanding), I have no choice in paying my taxes. That said, I don't ever gripe (nor would it even occur to me to gripe) about paying for other people's children's education or other things like that that my taxes go to pay for.
> I am not saying you have to support other people's children.
Except that's exactly what all childless people do, how do you think schools, child tax breaks, etc are funded?
> I'm just saying that when you grow old, you should make your own arrangements on how you fund your late years, because you probably count on "society" to support you, and this "society" would translate to "children of other people who I didn't raise"
This is an outlandish and straight up insulting statement. I'm not asking for a handout in any way to fund my "late years". That's what my 401K, IRA, SS, etc is for (though I have no expectation that SS will still be around by the time it's my turn to collect it, despite having contributed to it since I was 14). Pretending childless people are a drain on society when they fund your children is borderline delusional.
1. people get born 2. people get raised 3. people replenish pool of people with new people 4. people die
if people don't complete your activity on step 3, they failed. It doesn't matter how must $$$ they got. 401k, IRA, SS, savings - they won't deliver you food, change your catheter, or comfort you when you are lonely. If new generation isn't born, the rest doesn't matter. Global warming doesn't matter. Gay marriage doesn't matter. Inequality doesn't matter. Cops wrongfully arresting black people don't matter. You're done, game over. You wasted your life, and didn't do the only thing which actually mattered.
The pyramid scheme is that automation makes us more productive and therefore lets us work less. When we have more children we get to work more. So full time employment basically requires us to grow our consumption exponentially. Either we consume ourselves or we let our children consume.
Only in the rarest of cases is an amount of individual effort going to out value the benefit of bringing another productive person online.
We really need some sort of immigration platform for sponsorships etc, like why cant I import a few domestic helpers and just feed/clothe/house them.
Basically the only legal way to do that is by having children.
Slavery.
Is it a common stereotype that 'social justice' and DINKY (or indeed SINKY) lifestyles are linked, or is it just a general generation-based complaint?
for her (and those taking a similar stance) to change the world, in this model, increasingly means changing the minds of other people's children. the odds of prevailing in this battle of value systems only grow worse with time for those who choose to remain "child-free."