> it's just ugly and hard to read.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. But, like I mentioned in another comment here, it seems odd to me to criticise on the merit of choice of language on a programmers forum.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. But, like I mentioned in another comment here, it seems odd to me to criticise on the merit of choice of language on a programmers forum.
I also do not write my blog for children to read. In fact, I don't even have a target audience - it's all "I had a problem and this is how I solved it", and perhap some Clojurian finds my posts on Google and finds it interesting. I certainly know there are Lisp-likers here on HN, as well.
What does "nice to read" mean? It means that I don't spend another 2 hours falling over myself trying to convince 7 year olds why being decisively pedantic is better than more expressive, semantic code.
You're still caught up in the idea that coding and programming is for an elite group of people, and that perspective is boring and old.
You can label me elitist, you can label me however you like, but as a teacher you have a funny way to suppress people's ability to share knowledge on the basis that you or your children don't understand it. Shouldn't you as a teacher be happy that people are sharing knowledge on a wide variety of things? And yet you choose to call languages ugly, hard to read, and shame people for sharing knowledge because it isn't in your beloved programming language. And you call me elitist?
It's funny you brought up math - because children learn math at very early ages, and they progressively grow to understand more complicated math as they are able. The entire time the child is learning math, though. Math is the most basic instruction set that is used to count sides of a shape - all the way up to complicated thought experiments involving quantum mechanics. It is a semantic language that not only doesn't require a manual, it doesn't even require a theological conversation to apprehend it. So much so that when we attempt to communicate with life outside of our solar system, we use math to communicate with them. Why do scientists chose math over latin, or Russian? Because chosing a nationalist language would be dumb. Why would I chose to teach a language that obfuscates readability? Seems dumb.
I'm not sure why you hate lisp-like languages so much and can't accept that it's actually more comfortable for some people. I'm sorry if you were hit with one too many "lisp is for a more civilized age" people.
Coding is for everyone, no?