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I think you misunderstood the tone of my comment. I'm not saying that that is the case, but that I imagine that kind of victim blaming or whatever you want to call it is what a hiring manager would use with an applicant claiming burnout.

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I don't want to be hired by a manager who thinks it is ok to work someone more than 40 hours a week. I make it very clear that I left consulting firm X because of the unreasonable work expectations and that I have no problem working my standard week and overtime when required. But if the base contract is 40 hours a week don't expect me to work 60+ every week.

Were the work hours at the consulting firm made known to you before you joined? Or was it sold as "we occasionally have some crunch times to hit deadlines" and that turned out to be "always."

100% B. I was a senior hire, not a grad. No one at the firm told me at any point during the recruitment that this was what I was signing on for.

Now fair enough I could have checked the /r/consulting sub and found plenty of horror stories, but also I would have asked for more money to reflect the hours worked.

Not sure why we should particularly care what a hiring manager thinks?

What do you think?

Presumably because we want to get hired by that place and what the hiring manager thinks affects our chances of being hired.

Do you want to proceed getting hired at a place which is going to burn you out (y/n)?

Do you need an income (y/n)?

I can't be the only one who hates working for money. Id rather have a healthy goal to work towards, rather than the accumulation of dollars. So many go ideas go to the gutter because they aren't profitable. I think there's more to life than that.

good, you do that and i'll continue to feed myself.

I'd work for food, so we're aren't that dissimilar.

Yes and people have lost track of the value of money.

You can buy valuable things like good health care, living wages, balanced lives, and self respect for employees, fair deals and support for improved lives for customers, a healthier market environment for the planet and future generations. You can buy being the person to make the better world you imagine and make it sustainable to perpetuate that.

These are all for sale and good business practices to boot.

I think it makes sense why one would care about what the hiring manager would think in the context of the quote the original comment includes.

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