The problem is not that you prefer clubhouse. Instead, it is that you have ascribed some magical property to it, and are treating it like it is some revolution.
That is great that you have found something that you prefer. But there is no need to talk in such grandious terms, when talking about a voice chat app.
Just because it isn't important and profound to you personally doesn't mean it's stupid. Whatever you mean by that word anyway.
Anyway, this all stems from a fundamental misreading. I said that things can both be drastic, and stupid. I never said what, nor claimed that something significant and profound cannot also be stupid.
This is the statement I'm responding to. I think it demonstrates a lack of vision, and I'm trying to correct it. So yeah, basically different conversations at this point.
There's nothing fundamentally limiting SMS to being stuck to that. That SMS didn't add better 1:something capabilities is an indictment of post-1995 cellular carrier pricing models and greed.
They could have prevented and owned the entire messaging space, all of which is essentially an attempt to recreate basic messaging functionality that SMS lacks.
On the search side, there's nothing stopping a carrier from indexing public SMSs and making them discoverable. We're not talking about rocket science, in the basic realization [0].
I'm not sure why HN is looking at these things like (short blobs of text) are completely different than (short blobs of text). Everything built around them is plumbing. Complicated, difficult plumbing, but plumbing nonetheless.
I'm all ears as to why providing an SMS service that supports all of Twitter's features would have been technically impossible... say, circa-2000.
The way you are looking at things, the iphone isn't really an upgrade over the blackberry or palm pilot.
I think we're in agreement while disagreeing. My fascination isn't so much that the phone companies couldn't do it (because they could), but that they didn't (because they couldn't even imagine it).
Props to Twitter for envisioning the product, but "What if?" phone companies had {Twitter, Facebook} is an entirely plausible, albeit organizationally-unlikely present.
It would have required them to pivot their thinking from maximally taxing use of capital-intensive investments to growing scalable platforms, but stranger things have happened. And the internet's growth was already obvious in that time frame.
Social media is unfortunately one of the biggest changes in how people communicate this century so far but Twitter is only a small part of that.
The ways Facebook, Insta, etc are being used now are heavily influenced by what Twitter started doing first.
It's trivial to buy a bot farm and pump up your tweets to make it seem you have a large following or tons of people agree with your opinion when in fact it's all manufactured. But hey, all that tech is complicated right? Better to not think about it... /s
I'm not a Clubhouse user but I wouldn't at all be surprised if it had it based on how people talk about it.
Says someone who has never tried running a voice chat app at scale. It's not a flying car or a spaceship, but it's technically difficult.
I never said it wasn't technically difficult to do something like that at scale. Although, from what I have heard, they actually have outsourced most of the technical parts of the app, to some other company also.
The point though, is that you should not pretend like this is some revolutionary new thing, that is going to change all of society.
Thats all. Its a voice chat app. No need to ascribe anything magic to it.
> It's not a flying car or a spaceship
Ok great, so you agree with me that the person I was responding too was being kinda silly, by describing a voice chat app, in magic, grandiose terms.
They have changed society.
Something can be both simple and revolutionary.
I think most of us would agree that they've changed society for the worse. It pains me as a starry-eyed techie kid from the 90s that this is what we've done. Life was so much better before social media.
But yes, they've dramatically changed society.
I agree with this but I didn’t want to presume it, since there are positives too.