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Lots of electric vehicles exist and work great.

Not so much if you live in North America. There are a few plug-in options, but it seems like the good ones are staying in Europe and Japan because in 2021, the big automakers still don't think there's a market for EVs in the Americas.

Tesla does see a market in the Americas, so they actually sell cars here. That gives them a big leg up, even among people who don't like them.

> Not so much if you live in North America. There are a few plug-in options, but it seems like the good ones are staying in Europe and Japan because in 2021, the big automakers still don't think there's a market for EVs in the Americas.

We have, and love, our Chevrolet Bolt. In addition to the Bolt, Kia, Hyundai, Volkswagen, Porsche, Audi, Jaguar, Polestar (Volvo), and more all have electric vehicles, all available in the US.

Yep, I live in the US. There were tons of Leafs were plugged in every day at my office pre pandemic. More of those than Teslas. Also plenty of Bolts there. I see lots of non Tesla EVs on the road every day.

None with the kind of autonomy features we're discussing here. And FWIW: my judgement was that the model Y was still a win as a pure EV choice, though I agree that the other manufacturers are getting much closer there.

The whole point of this post is that Tesla's autonomy capabilities have been way overhyped.

Another poster above says they were smart for not purchasing FSD,

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26933022

I guess I see your point in the context of this thread. But it's hard to see it in the context of my life where EVs are a big deal while all this self driving hype is just a silly side show. My car is pretty easy to drive already...

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