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Someone noted that it's different when your employer tells you to vote in a certain way vs. a random political party. That's where you entered the conversation, so I'm not sure how that's getting lost.

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I guess what's "getting lost" is the fact that the original comment says nothing about that, and how that part has nothing to do with all the kvetching about "omg six detailed pages!" -- you know, the focus of that very comment.

At this point I don't really know how to respond other than, again, everyone else is on the same page here.

All such people are so blinded by the outrage they can't take a few seconds to make clear what they're actually outraged about in way that can convince others to join them? Yeah, sounds about right.

Have you considered that you simply aren't understanding the reasons, which are quite clear and unambiguous to a relatively large population? That is, maybe the issue here is your difficulty understanding, rather than anybody else's ability to explain.

You don't need to make things clear if everyone already knows what everyone else is talking about.

After an explanation that you clearly understood, I'm not sure why you're still complaining about conversational opacity.

No, I didn’t get any coherent explanation of what the OP was objecting to, after offering charitable interpretations that were rejected.

Edit: I did get some completely separate, independent arguments, if that’s what you mean, but I’m saying I got no explanation of the original comment.

The original comment (at least, I think I went far enough up-thread) said that teaching somebody how to vote and to vote in your favour, when you have power over them, is sleazy.

This is the original comment:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26263369

There were others that gave different reasons, but none that made any sense of the "OMG six pages of instructions! Horrible!"

Maybe you didn't understand because you're focusing on a bit that the original comment didn't emphasise. The complaint is not about six pages of instructions. The complaint is about combining education with manipulation.

Imagine a handy guide from your bank that included instructions for how to wire money to its author.

Yes, I suggested that as a meaning of what the OP meant, very early on, and it was rejected.

Second paragraph of response: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26265969

Can you please stop? I know these tit-for-tat exchanges are hard to pull away from but they're exceptionally tedious, and not what HN is supposed to be for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Could you explain that comment of yours, please? I don't understand how it's saying what you claim it's saying.

Please stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26279550

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