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I’ll take that bet. How much? I’m not anti-Tesla but I do see Tesla as a brand more than a technology company: good for business but not good good for breaking new ground with technology — I’d put a lot against Tesla on that bet (I don’t think it matters for the business much though).

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I say we do $1,000, but what did you have in mind? We will have to put the bets in escrow

We need to agree to what constitutes full level 5 self driving.

My interpretation of it is a car that can drive itself anywhere in the world, has been approved for commercial use in at least one country, AND recognized as the first to full self driving in at least 2 major publications.

We can put a 5 year time limit on the bet.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, it sounds like you (sixQuarks) and the parent (vegannet) want the same side of the bet :-) ie you're both betting that Tesla won't achieve FSD L5 in 5 years.

> sixQuarks 2 hours ago [–]

> Anyone wanna bet me that Tesla will be first to full level 5 self driving?

L5 under those conditions won’t be achieved in 5 years. Might as well not make the bet.

We can make a different bet on this.

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