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Also, beware the false equivalence between smashing a store window and stealing some crap vs. actually attacking a human being. They will use the word "violence" to describe both, rather than get into a definition war with them, just keep the distinction clear.

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You mean like this: https://www.cleveland19.com/story/32814897/men-chant-black-l...

Yes, that is what I am talking about. That is actual violence.

I really do not think that most willing to smash a bunch of windows would hesitate to attack you if you stand between them and said windows.

That's a strange view to hold. For most people there's a significant cognitive difference between being willing to destroy objects and being willing to attack people.

Not once they're part of a mob there isn't.

Don't engage with the trolls!

It's a bad faith argument you're arguing against, which I'm sure you see, just want to call it out.

Thanks for calling me a troll rather than engaging with my arguments, really mature of you.

Sure let me engage then.

Why should anyone engage with your arguments when they are easily debunked both on principle, and with evidence widely available online? Why should anyone engage with your arguments when they are made in bad faith?

More to the point, can you demonstrate that you aren't trolling?

We are not talking simply about destroying objects but about a specific act of vandalism that often happens during rioting.

Attacking a human being, smashing a window, and attacking a human being in order to smash the window behind him are three very different things.

I never claimed otherwise.

> I really do not think that most willing to smash a bunch of windows would hesitate to attack you if you stand between them and said windows.

Unless I misunderstood it this statement implies that a window smashing person would as well attack another humane being. It's not true. These acts are different, require different motivations and a different mentality/personality traits to follow through.

> Unless I misunderstood this statement implies that a window smashing person would as well attack another humane being

...if you attempt to stop them from smashing said window it is likely, yes. This happened a few times in USA in the past few months.

The acts are obviously different, if they were the same we would not have this discussion.

> That's a strange view to hold.

Have you ever seen Antifa in action?

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