Compared to other apps which offer group E2EE video calls:
Duo - 32 participants
Facetime - 32 participants
Zoom - 100 participants (or 1000 w/ a Large Meeting License)
Compared to other apps which offer group E2EE video calls:
Duo - 32 participants
Facetime - 32 participants
Zoom - 100 participants (or 1000 w/ a Large Meeting License)
Facetime is apple only.
Zoom is not even end to end encrypted (edit: now), and was built for businesses, and apps are close to malware installers
I'm probably out of the loop, do you mind expanding on this?
https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-instal...
Zoom is not malware and never was malware, although Zoom did so some installer tricks to help computer illiterate users get into meeting more quickly, which coincidentally is their entire value-add.
Note I own no shares in Zoom, do not and never have worked for Zoom, and have no financial interest in Zoom.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-instal...
> Zoom is not malware and never was malware
I have never said that. I said that installers are close to malware.
> which coincidentally is their entire value-add.
Yes. This also enabled full camera and mic access without user interaction. Entire value-add.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-fla...
https://blog.zoom.us/zoom-rolling-out-end-to-end-encryption-...
I don't think my phone would be able to receive 1000 different video streams simultaneously for instance.
> Your Legacy Signal Groups will be automatically upgraded to New Groups so they can get in on the new features we recently released, like admins, @mentions, group links, and more. Upgrades don’t happen all at once or instantly, and some groups may not upgrade for a while.
Signal will catch up soon.