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Not so sure that helps in this situation. FreeNAS users are reporting these drives failing to resilver, which _could mean_ that you end up with a failed array and data loss instead of a failed drive. I'll personally be staying away from WD for a while. I'd rather drives fail prematurely than be a ticking time bomb.

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The news isn't that WD is doing this, it's that WD is also doing this. At this point both the top 2 are doing this.

I'm so sick of HDDs, I can't wait for SSD NAS to close the gap. An NVMe M2-blade NAS would be incredible!

I don't trust ssds for long term storage, and I'm mortified on the experience when they die from one second to the other.

At work, we had literal hundreds of machines failing the same week because of sudden ssd death.

Ssds are fine for speed, but for storage... maybe one day.

Probably not. The permanent need for power to avoid data slowly disappearing from the device pretty much makes SSDs a non starter for long term storage.

Surely routine ZFS scrubs would mitigate this?

SSDs literally zero themselves out if they’re left unplugged for too long. No file system trickery will save you from that.

Are you sure? This article says that was a misunderstanding.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2925173/debunked-your-ssd-wo...

That’s not what the article says. The article says that consumers are overreacting, but that SSDs can and do lose their data with loss of power and/or heat.

I feel like we are a long way off from that just based on price. Generously I think we can say a 1TB SSD (sata even to go cheaper) is about $100. That compared to a bare WD Red 8TB which comes in at ~$27/TB. ~4x the cost and smaller drives is a hard sell (even with the speed). I have a pool of SSD's that I keep some stuff on but the rest goes to spinning rust.

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