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Great, will they be offering free trade-ins? These are $2000 computers that have a major broken component. Not to mention, the second a computer comes on sale that doesn't have this issue, the resale value of the current MacBooks will be disproportionately affected compared to previous revisions. So a nice double whammy: a miserable experience during its use, and an unusually small resale value afterwards.

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You think the company that makes you buy an extra 'fuck you' dongle to plug in your brand new phone into your brand new computer will let you trade up?

Sorry if you already bought the lemon model. I'd sell before the new one drops to take less of a hit if I were in your shoes.

Don't forget makes you buy a monitor stand separately for that few thousand dollar monitor

Meh. That’s an incredibly high end reference monitor targeted at a niche set of high end video producers that already overwhelmingly prefer to rack mount their reference monitors.

Most of the target market doesn’t need or want that stand.

Most of the should-be-targeted market just wants a $1500 retina display.

LG sells a perfectly good one for $1299 that Apple also sells in their stores. They are very good displays.

I find their asymmetry to be ugly and visually distracting: there's no excuse for the "chin" on the top of the monitor - I'm surprised Apple OK'd the design at all - and just-as-surprised that they didn't equal-out the bottom bezel of the display in the new 2019 revision just to make it seem balanced.

Also, the fact it's a single-input monitor without HDMI input is a deal-killer for me: multiple-input monitors are fantastic when you have multiple machines on your desk and alternate between them based on the current job (e.g. laptop in docking station, Mac Mini for Safari + iOS testing, main desktop, dangling HDMI cable for connecting to tablets and phones).

No, they are not. As an owner of LG OLED TV, I know it for sure.

LOL, dear downvoters, tell me more about my TV, muhaha.

I have an LG tv and have no problems, but not regarding that, Apple uses LG displays on their macbooks and ipads (not sure about the 5k imac). This is probably why you are being downvoted.

And I have LG TV and have problem, so what, lol? "I don't want to believe they can be bad"? Muhaha!

At least try to google first how many people have issues with LG monitors.

A not insignificant number of fans will buy it anyway.

I get it's an easy target to make fun of, and it's probably over-priced, but the concept of a separate stand is not entirely unreasonable (especially as many "pros" already have stands they like). At least they're offering a VESA adapter, though it's stupid to charge $200 for it.

Nah, they give you a $1000 discount on the monitor if you already own a stand.

"makes you"

huh..

You plug your phone into your computer?

~~Deploying and debugging iOS apps is still not available via wi-fi I believe.~~ Edit: added xcode 9.

Yes it is

You have to plug it in once to enable this, so you still need a dongle or cable.

I'm all aboard the USB-C train though, if only Apple would switch the rest of their lightning stuff over.

Since that's not happening, here's hoping that this year's iPhones finally ship with a USB-C charger and USB-C to Lightning cable in the box.

As a sometime mac diehard (iOS & Mac developer, ObjC enthusiast), I find it a little hard to imagine how anyone could continue paying through the nose for Apple's dreadful hardware at this point. A reasonable platform conservatism did encourage me to consider another mac when my 2013 MB Pro outlived its usefulness, but only briefly.

Shame. Last time I used it (early 2018) I still found OS X to be have the best overall balance of good to bad things (no current OS is exactly 'good'). But the hardware is a complete deal-breaker.

The software is becoming a deal-breaker as well. Every upgrade seems to break things to the point that I don't even upgrade anymore.

I've also felt that window management is better in Windows than in OS X. Multitasking feels faster and more intuitive on Windows 10.

Fair enough - I'm a bit out of touch with current OS X. Windows has some pluses but lots of downsides too. Same for Linux. They're all an unhappy compromise from my perspective. I've reached a stage of frustration with the dreadful desktop OS scene that I now invest as little as possible in any of them. I keep my data portable, use x-platform apps as much as I can, and generally keep the OS, as far as I'm able, to be just a file store and app launcher.

Mine is less than 6 months old and already at least 3 keys are malfunctioning. The Apple rep reckoned I would be without my machine for at least 3 days - and that is unacceptable as I need it for my work. In the end I bought an external keyboard.

They don't need to offer free trade-in. When the new machine is available I will buy it. Then return this broken one for a full refund. And there are literally half a dozen laws in the UK that entitle me to do so.

I usually use my Macs until I feel an upgrade is worth it (I can sometimes get five years out one), and then upgrade and give the old one away to someone who could use it. The cost for me is really that I'm not going to want to keep my current MBP (bought at the end of 2017) for as long as I usually would, just because they keyboard sucks.

I absolutely agree, they should offer a significant discount to people trading them back in to get a replacement model.

To be fair they are offering free keyboard replacement.

And they replace it with a keyboard with the same design flaws. I have replaced mine several times now and am left without a computer for a week every time.

I'm hoping t get Hackintosh running on a lenovo yoga so I can replace my keyboard one last time and sell the POS.

Don't. I've made the mistake of building a hackintosh out of 'Golden Build' list of seemingly issue-less components and it's a world of hurt. Every now and then something doesn't work (BT, Wi-Fi, GPU, random OS freezes) and there's no real way to fix it, the usual advice is to replace component and/or reinstall the OS. I've wasted so much time on it, that if I'd know it in advance, I wouldn't do it. You've been warned.

And it takes anywhere from <unreasonably long> to <forever> to get it replaced because they basically have to replace the entire laptop just to replace the keyboard.

And the times are worse outside the US.

This is a company that renders many of its perfectly working phones and tablets virtually worthless via centralized cloud account locking that is easily forgotten and left on. I doubt they care about resale value.

That’s a great anti-theft feature actually

When you reset an iPhone or iPad it always prompts you for the iCloud password to remove the lock. eBay also gives you the same reminder. The only way you're selling iCloud locked devices is if you're usually too lazy to reset or it's a stolen device. (Though other situations happen - I recently sold some iPhones for my wife's family, which belonged to someone who died of Alzheimers)

“Virtually worthless [to thieves but not the rightful owner.]”

Doesn’t Google do the same?

yes they do

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