For everyone that hasn't seen it, reports are they've already decided to change the keyboard on forthcoming models. Discussion here:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148
Edit: added "reports are"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20353148
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Sorry if you already bought the lemon model. I'd sell before the new one drops to take less of a hit if I were in your shoes.
huh..
Most of the target market doesn’t need or want that stand.
Also, the fact it's a single-input monitor without HDMI input is a deal-killer for me: multiple-input monitors are fantastic when you have multiple machines on your desk and alternate between them based on the current job (e.g. laptop in docking station, Mac Mini for Safari + iOS testing, main desktop, dangling HDMI cable for connecting to tablets and phones).
At least try to google first how many people have issues with LG monitors.
I'm all aboard the USB-C train though, if only Apple would switch the rest of their lightning stuff over.
Since that's not happening, here's hoping that this year's iPhones finally ship with a USB-C charger and USB-C to Lightning cable in the box.
Shame. Last time I used it (early 2018) I still found OS X to be have the best overall balance of good to bad things (no current OS is exactly 'good'). But the hardware is a complete deal-breaker.
I've also felt that window management is better in Windows than in OS X. Multitasking feels faster and more intuitive on Windows 10.
And the times are worse outside the US.
They don't need to offer free trade-in. When the new machine is available I will buy it. Then return this broken one for a full refund. And there are literally half a dozen laws in the UK that entitle me to do so.
I absolutely agree, they should offer a significant discount to people trading them back in to get a replacement model.
In this case these aren't double shot, they are single shot that is painted/dyed and then has the lettering laser-etched out of the paint/dye.
The Microsoft Ergo Keyboard, the first one released in 1995 or so, was well nigh perfect (well, once you remapped capslock to something useful, which you could do in software, or in hardware with a little gumption and some conductive paint). Probably saved my career. Then the quality of Microsoft keyboards went to hell as they cost-reduced their way to mediocrity. The more things change . . .
I use a Kinesis Gaming Keyboard now, and I think it's one of the best ergo keyboards on the market. It's programmable to a reasonable degree, has decent key feel, and I've been pounding on a couple of them pretty hard since they were released 2+ years ago without experiencing any issues. I think Kinesis has a clue, but that doesn't mean they won't change . . .
The Keyboardio keyboard has an interesting design and great build quality, but I'm too damned old to retrain, and it requires significant effort to reach a decent typing rate. I'm not up to it. I'd be very interested in buying a more traditional split keyboard from the Keyboardio team if they ever decide to build one. There are probably 10 people at my smallish company who would buy them, too. Kaia and Jesse, if you're reading this, take my money :-)
The Ultimate Hacking Keyboard is just not quite there. The build quality is excellent and the team put an incredible amount of work into the thing, but the lack of an ESC key just kills me. "Hacking" keyboard . . . but no escape key. I just don't understand. Yes, you can remap keys, but you're going to lose something important to a shift sequence that your fingers are going to stumble on for weeks. (Yes control-[ is ESC but this is not the 1970s and I'm not typing on an ADM3A terminal any more).
One thing I'd love to see is an ergo keyboard that includes pressure and velocity information along with keystrokes. I'd like a warning from the system that I'm typing too hard, for one thing, and I'm sure the information would be useful for other purposes.
We need a revival of bauhaus design - no distinction between form and function. If it falls short at its function, it fails as a form, and should not be accepted.
"Shit" is in a lot of ways subjective.
It is now at least
I had to get a new laptop, knew I was getting a 2019 MBP, and was terrified the keyboard experience would be horrendous due to the coverage I see on the topic here.
And it isn't at all. It feels different than my 2015 model, but... definitely not worse. I may even be just slightly better because it's noticeably quieter.
Just one perspective, but yeah. The keyboard rage on here should not be taken as anything approaching absolute truth.
I think the keyboard rage comes from the fact that they changed a perfectly fine keyboard with a bogus one, just to have a slightly slimmer laptop (along with many other gimmicks such as the touchbar, or the oversized trackpad).
There are much worse keyboards.
That said, even in my ideal, happy-path case, there’s one minor flaw I do occasionally run up against, which I rarely see mentioned: the keys are too close together. It’s easier – not greatly so, but perceptibly – to hit adjacent keys. There’s no question in my mind that going back to the old keyboard will be an improvement across the board, even for those who haven’t had any of the marquee issues.
Honestly, I thought it was all a fuss about nothing. But it isn't. BTW my machine is 6 months old. It started malfunctioning 2 months ago.
All this time I thought I had a 2019 model because I ordered it in 2019 and it came direct from the factory in China (not from existing stock).
Might still not buy one if they still have a Touch Bar though (and omg, touch bar was automatically made uppercase...)
Apple, I love you, but I hate you too.
Logic Pro is the only thing that might force me to by an inferior current model Macbook if my 2013 model croaks. I'm about to start experimenting with Ardour to see if my Logic Pro dependency can be removed.
Mine does this when I use video conferencing.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2018-macbook-pros-crash...
My problem isn't with the usability or usefulness of the TouchBar. My problem is that the mere presence of the TouchBar has created a point of failure that crashes the machine... when I'm not even using that feature!