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Comment by Johnny555 | Hacker News Reader

Having grown up near Cleveland, I'll take the weather of San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, LA over that of Cleveland.

The weather is what keeps me in the SF Bay Area despite the traffic congestion and high cost of living. Being able to bike to work nearly every day of the year goes a long way toward making up for heavy traffic.

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Weather in SF and LA is likable, but Seattle and Portland are dreadfully rain soaked and socked in clouds for 9 months of the year. You don't move to the latter two locations for the weather, you move there because they are considered trendy and "cool" in modern culture and you're a trend seeker. The same "cool" designation could be slapped onto Cleveland or Milwaukie or Ann Arbor and you'd have the same trend seekers piling into there too.

rain is a lot easier to deal with than snow and ice on the roads. i'd take 9 months of cloudy skies over 4 months of invisible black ice patches, multi car pileups, blizzards, polar vortexes, scraping ice off my car every morning, shovelling my driveway, extreme heating costs, etc.

While the PNW isnt ideal compared to drought ridden california, its vastly nicer weather than what millions of americans put up with every year.

Biking in drizzle isn't hard or all that dangerous, and if it's not drizzling too much is pretty fun (it keeps you cool).

Biking in sub-freezing weather and snow is entirely different.

Does Cleveland even have any bike lanes?

Interesting how you call people who seek practical, comfortable weather "trend seekers", and you seem to think that enduring brutal winters is normal.

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