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Comment by WWKong | Hacker News Reader

13.5 yrs and still in line for green card. I guess working a regular tech job and enabling the companies to compete and succeed, adding many many millions in revenue, creating jobs etc. is not as sexy as surviving on ramen and raising funds for the next app.

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Not to belittle the annoyance of the visa/green card process, but you do get to stay in the country unlike the group this is targeting. I think this brings startup founders closer to parity with corporate sponsored visas.

Perhaps another country would benefit from your expertise and can offer you a better place to live?

If you stay some places for a long period, it is not as easy as you think to move, not even to another country.

For young people, I strongly suggest to look for other opportunities. If you look at the value and price for US visa, probably price is the highest in history, the value certainly not.(my opinion. I am Chinese.)

For the visa reported in the news, If you look at it carefully, it is joke.

> If you look at the value and price for US visa, probably price is the highest in history

$500,000? most of which can be an investment you get back later? Nah not the highest, pretty much on par with other countries that sell residency and citizenship

The value is also pretty much on par, IMO, with European programs.

the value I am comparing is not to European programs. (they are worse, I think).

American Visa vs Stay in China.

of course, it is very personal. even in chinese, the opinions can be the opposite.

The green card time issue is only an issue if you were born in the oversubscribed countries of india, the philippines, china or mexico. And it doesn't apply if you marry an american. If your even from pakistan you can get a green card in several years if your company starts the process quickly.

Considering everything (culture, kids' future, opportunities, investment, social circle etc.) this is still the best place for me. So yes, it is annoying and ridiculous, but I like it here. Or maybe it is me rationalizing the situation in my head.

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