"In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way"
Of course, he meant a 52-48 Remain win - but I think the same principle holds either way.
"In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way"
Of course, he meant a 52-48 Remain win - but I think the same principle holds either way.
[What I see as more likely is that the UK invokes Article 50, goes through a financial crisis, and then the EU offer to cancel our Article 50 invocation and let us stay in the EU if we join the Euro and Schengen.]
I think if one more country votes to leave between now and then a renegotiation and some core constitutional changes become more likely.
The basic problem is that the Leave side lied about the benefits of leaving, but they were absolutely correct that the core of the EU has become a neoliberal financial dictatorship with rather thin democratic wrapping.
If bigger cracks start appearing in the structure the leadership is going to have a choice between accepting more real democracy, or having the whole thing come crashing down.
Currently there are no bigger cracks visible, but the economic foundations in most of the EU are very shaky - so who knows where we'll be a couple of years from now?
Two years! Pretty sure it will be around. Now if you'd said, say, 20 years then you might have a point.
Personally I very much hope the EU is around in 20 years, but massively reformed. I think it needs far more transparency and clarity (no more "<insert random city here> Agreement"). Also every policy which doesn't have a good reason to be decided centrally should be delegated down to local level, even to sub-national / city / county level.
And you're right about the shaky financial foundations. I think the Eurozone, assuming it doesn't collapse, should be a separate organization entirely.
Why?
If it is positive, thing that it is highly dubious
They aren't going to join neither
Also this is certain to make people even more pissed
Schengen does not make sense for the UK. (They have their own deal with Ireland because of Northern Ireland called the Common Travel Area which might go down the drain as well)
If that would kill the EU then the EU probably deserves to die. Otherwise it suggests that it only persists through the inability of its consituent populations to challenge the status quo.
The only specific grievance is EU migration and that just happens to be one of the four fundamental principles.
The EU's sheer brutality towards Greece is one of the reasons I abstained. They didn't have a democratic mandate to do that and the institution itself is being gradually changed in order to remove democratic oversight (that's one of the reasons they could be so fucking brutal). More real power exists in the ECB and EU commission now and the parliament is more and more toothless. That's wrong on multiple levels.
I'm pretty sure the British outside of the cities are rationally voting to reduce competition in the labour market. Just ask the "in" campaign:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/1218...
If the EU keeps preaching austerity, labor market suppression and other neoliberal ideas I expect it to dissolve in a decade or two.
Greece's failures are mainly self-inflicted and run far deeper than the handling economic crisis. It's a complex subject, not one you can cheapen by emotion crying out "Look at the poor greek who cannot afford medication".
Seriously...
It's nothing like the UK.
Although maybe letting them out of the Euro would be a good thing, but apparently there's no mechanism for that.
Nothing is solved. both remain and leave need 60+ to claim a mandate.