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Ah, Stross has the TESCREAL brainworms. I'd been wondering how long that would take.

(I'm starting to really feel the point of demanding justice through violence. Some people are only willing to let others live at the moment their face hits the pavement.)

Guessing from the comments? Don't see a publication date...

What is there to talk about?

I can't imagine I'm the only one who mostly cut out after everything that happened in the 2010s. Too dangerous, too unwanted, too toxic.

(Fewer creeps in private communities too, of whatever kind of people you want rid of.)

If everybody does it, what's left is what's left.

One can only hope regulators keep grinding Apple's face into the ground until we have an acceptable phone.

(Though the more competition the better, I say! It would only be bad for Android in a certain sense.)

Eh. It can happen. I know someone who's paid to moderate [1] a "grassroots" brand subreddit. It's just that "you're not real" is easier to believe than "you genuinely think Donald Trump is the prophesied Jewish messiah." Barring conclusive evidence (which rarely [2]) people gravitate in one direction.

I'd guess it's a mix, with a little straight money, a lot of obsession, and a middling amount of compensated cat herding.

[1] The playbook being basically "discuss reasonable criticism, remove unreasonable criticism" ie "nobody talk too much about that battery fire, but don't make it look suspicious."

[2] "On the Internet, you know everybody who disagrees with you is a dog."

Some of them probably are effectively paid advertising teams. That doesn't really explain some of the people you used to get on forums though. Why pay someone to write 24/7 micro-serial "Transformers" fan-fiction?

The entire article is an extended definition of the headline term mixed with discussion of the implications of presentation bias. It's also quite concise. To the point that I almost can't believe this isn't trolling.

Given Wikipedia's influence on society I think I agree. Misinformation can reach at least as many people as on Facebook, and cause injury and death to real people. It's only a matter of time before Wikipedia's Myanmar genocide comes.

We can't bring that threat under control while remaining completely ignorant of the people involved.

There's no argument here. Just reactionary noises pretending to be about "human rights."

> Atheism is steadily growing.

> The legitimacy of government follows from the consent of the governed.

Here, your neckbeard is showing.

It's not my job to educate you about why you're wrong, but only to raise my voice as part of the chorus saying that you are. Hate and your sad support for it will always be met with refusal. You are finished.

As per the paradox of tolerance, targeting fascism is never harassment but always a necessary act of compassion. There's no contradiction here.

Eh, there's nothing wrong with banning both. A pluralistic world has no room for the kind of toxic, offensive material that comes out of these antisocial (asocial?) spaces.

Voltaire was simply wrong about what an enlightened society looks like. It's basic paradox of tolerance stuff. Some things shouldn't exist anywhere.

Ovarit took part in the harassment campaign, so hopefully they go next. Don't know if Cloudflare hosts them though.

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And 4chan is always bigger but more diffuse. Hard to say who's more of a pest.

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I think the important lesson here is that direct targeting of fascist employees and ex-employees of enablers is very much a live tactic. It worked, it works, it will continue to work.

Good. Now that we've finally established that Cloudflare isn't impotent after all, it's time to go down the list. No more faux "conversations." This isn't the only site they already know they need to drop.

Sorry, I meant the links in the article you submitted. They're all archive.today links. It's an archiving service (like the Internet Archive) that seems to run on one person's money, PayPal, and advertising (unlike the Internet Archive). It has a bunch of different TLDs.

I think it came out of GamerGate? And it's popular with Reddit conspiracy theorists, so I was wondering about the State Department using it.

But the author says a partial number is revealed?

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I just tried logging in. It's exactly as the author describes - I enter my email and get a "Log in with a one-time code" page with my partial phone number. The code is sent automatically. Must be A/B testing. (No password prompt is shown unless I click "Try another way" below the code field.)

Weird. What's with all the archive.today links? Isn't it run by some random anonymous person? It's definitely plastered with advertising.

Exactly. Demanding that Facebook upend the law for personal benefit has never been a real political position. It's just animals making a mess all over the democratic system.

They're not the government. They've no obligation to platform anyone at all, whatever sort of extremist they are. Get used to it, examine why the world will be a better place, move on.

Wouldn't've thought of that. Seems like a good way to raise awareness around campaign season.

Fandom types and 80s hackers have that in common - mostly white neckbeards roleplaying diversity and thinking it's for real. (Most of the people who called themselves "anarchists" back then too. Feels like political spaces have seen a bit more improvement though.)

I make no objection.

Probably worth noting that it's a metaphor for why the government can criminalize opposing a wartime draft.

(Probably worth noting why they can't.)

This article really deserves more attention. I hope you repost it at some point.

The Datacultr app mentioned is a particularly barefaced example of efficiently extracting small amounts of money from many users through hardware control.

There's also the idea of (effectively) embedding loans in smart hardware so they follow whoever's actually trying to use it. (Also already thing with cars.)

Both techniques seem likely to have many other applications. Probably very unpleasant ones.

I mean, he has started spreading TERF propaganda on Twitter (because those particular brainworms always infect the new converts, for whatever reason). That and the Trump thing aren't minor ideological differences - they're fundamental, irreconcilable conflicts. There's no future for them.

I hate to break it to you, but Greenwald is just another "I was a teenage leftist" Republican getting ready for his book tour. He's been pandering to Trump supporters for a few years now...

He's a terrible example to cite if you want to support the actual left.

Meh. Child indoctrination has always been the price of entry into the elite. And of course sometimes it'll be uncomfortable - cultural imperialism doesn't work without some kind of force behind it. But how else can you ensure one common enlightened culture? (Count yourself lucky they're not going to Istanbul for the levy, and move on.)

There's a reason fascists keep showing up in the comments. Not that the moderation is likely to do anything about it.

I wouldn't call expunging racism from society "radical" or incompatible with any inquiry worth making free. If conservatives need to "allege" about that, what more do you need to hear?