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This is also playing right into NATO's hands in a way.

But, after reading the authors I mentioned closely, I now realize that this is a war for control/negative-control over natural resources (grain, oil, gas, fertilizers, etc.). Also, this is about geostrategic security (anchoring at the Carpathian mountains and Bessarabia Gap).

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CNeDtZmpjU

And: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE

Yup. We have this MCU good guys vs bad guys thing ingrained in us now.

Nobody wants to talk seriously about the intricate complexities. My way or the highway.

Russia bad. Ukraine good. America leader of the free world. Go to sleep. Eat. Buy. Work. Rinse. Repeat.

I am all for making Poland and the Baltics a hard red-line front that we protect against Russia. But, taking Ukraine from Russia in this non-neutral manner is just wrong. We can easily hold the Polish and Baltic fronts. And, Russia can live with that too. We can then trade as usual.

You're not losing your mind. You are not out of line either. The media is pushing just 1 primary narrative. Period. We are being used as geopolitical pawns.

Seeing this play out in the media reminds me of the Iraq War hysteria in 2003. Completely one-sided coverage, classic war-time propaganda (ghost of kiev), banning Russian arts and paralympians, etc. I've lost all faith in the media. Period.

You may think that there is an absolute answer to this situation, but there isn't. I recommend that you study commentators and scholars such as: John Mearsheimer, Zbigniew Brezinski, George Friedman, Peter Zeihan, George Kennan, Noam Chomsky, Peter Hitchens, Gonzalo Lira, Tim Marshall, Robert D Kaplan, etc., etc. to gain some insight into the other and more complex side of this story. Their books are a good and quick read.

I am a proud American -- but, I am convinced that my country started this entire episode and planned to have it be so for a long, long time. 9/11, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, etc. just got in their way. Instead of drawing a rational meet-me-in-the-middle red-line with Russia (ex: Poland and the Baltics) that we could live with, we decided to take Ukraine for this ride. We did that. We encouraged Zelensky to talk about acquiring nukes, grabbing Crimea back, grabbing Luhansk and Donestk, joining NATO and the EU, etc. -- instead of encouraging Austria-like neutrality, we promoted our-way-or-the-highway.

And now what are we doing? Fighting to the last Ukrainian? Fighting until they lose even more in a country that has lost ~20% of its population from its peak? We are literally sacrificing their country and encouraging suicide. This. is. just. wrong!

You are just like the hacking group `Anonymous`.

You will target easy prey like Russia, but you would never dare to go up against your lord and master, my country, the USA -- even when it does something wrong.

You may think that this is a 'smart' or 'moral' question. But, it really isn't.

What did Austria want?

To be left alone so that it doesn't suffer casualties.

That's what Ukraine wanted, but we pushed them into non-neutrality and anti-Russia.

You may think that there is an absolute answer to this situation, but there isn't. I recommend that you study commentators and scholars such as: John Mearsheimer, Zbigniew Brezinski, George Friedman, Peter Zeihan, Noam Chomsky, Peter Hitchens, Gonzalo Lira, Tim Marshall, Robert D Kaplan, etc., etc. to gain some insight into the other and more complex side of this story.

I am a proud American -- but, I am convinced that my country started this entire episode and planned to have it be so for a long, long time. 9/11, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, etc. just got in their way. Instead of drawing a rational meet-me-in-the-middle red-line with Russia (ex: Poland and the Baltics) that we could live with, we decided to take Ukraine for this ride. We did that. We encouraged Zelensky to talk about acquiring nukes, grabbing Crimea back, grabbing Luhansk and Donestk, joining NATO and the EU, etc. -- instead of encouraging Austria-like neutrality, we promoted our-way-or-the-highway.

And now what are we doing? Fighting to the last Ukrainian? Fighting until they lose even more in a country that has lost ~20% of its population from its peak? We are literally sacrificing their country and encouraging suicide. This. is. just. wrong!

When exactly are you planning to punish our (American) political class for its war crimes and human rights violations?

How about punishing us for our operatives that began the 2014 putsch in Ukraine?

How about punishing us for Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen, etc., etc.?

How about the drone strikes that killed an innocent family?

NO. You are exactly what is wrong in this world. Hypocrisy is fine. But, not recognizing it is just evil.

More virtue-signalling and grand-standing. Nothing more. You think that little yellow-blue flag on your site makes the world better? No. It doesn't. Recognizing the complexity of this situation would make you a better company in my eyes.

I was planning on buying myself a domain for my little self-hosted project. I am crossing Namecheap off the list of providers I was considering. Adios.

I listened to all of these and didn't hear anything concerning: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chomsky+yugosla...

We could've avoided this:

(1) https://i.redd.it/iq2zlt0ldrj81.jpg

(2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfk-qaqP2Ws

(3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0PPaqnReu8

We still continued in order to destabilize all of Europe and prevent them from merging Central European industrial capital with Eastern European natural resources. It's the same old policy -- everything else is just bread and circuses.

Well, we still have Russia by the throat, now I just think we shouldn't squeeze so hard that they collapse -- which would lead to a complete and utter destabilization of a huge chunk of the world, and it would be detrimental to our short and long-term interests. Miscreants would take over and have a field day.

Contrary to popular belief, that is only a small consideration in geostrategic security politics.

Done. You ponder this now: https://twitter.com/i/status/1485729483151880194

What we did was immoral.

By leading Ukraine like that and controlling it subconventionally, we wrecked them.

Now do you understand the neo-McCarthyism raging through our country?

If you even say something other than "Putin is Satan" or "Russia bad", you get downvoted to oblivion. Enjoy. Don't bother mentioning the complexities of this situation or once again, you'll be downvoted.

I think they just developed with scale.

Sending them weapons is a pathway. Pledging neutrality is not.

Do you think this was right?:

NATO proposed Ukrainian and Georgian membership of NATO in 2005-2008, in the clear knowledge that this would destabilize the situation.

France, Germany, and others were against this. The proposal began the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs

We then openly backed the 2014 putsch in Kiev, an open act of aggression just as irresponsible as a military incursion. CIA John Brennan, Senator John McCain, and Diplomat Victoria Nuland were there in Ukraine when Yanukovych was being overthrown. There is also evidence to show that we were involved through NGOs in overthrowing and promoting an atmosphere desiring the overthrow of Yanukovych.

"F* the EU" said Diplomat Victoria Nuland -- knowing full well that the Germans and French would be against a coup in then-neutral Ukraine.

Meanwhile, once again, soon after the Iraq debacle: here we are getting dragged into another "war for democracy".

Russia and America turned Ukraine into a "if we can't have, burn it to the ground" situation. Further American intervention in Ukraine will just turn it into another Syria.

Thank you for having the patience to say what I wanted to say.

I am not a pro-Putin guy, but, if we don't recognize our part in this chaos, then, we're just promoting more of it.

We live and benefit from nation-states. We didn't choose that structure, but it is "natural" and just the way it is -- until we have some major technological breakthrough that changes that.

How dare you tell us that the situation is more complicated than "American-style Democracy" vs "Evil Tyranny"?!

As I have said, Chomsky is an ideologue. But, I listen to his views nonetheless.

If you prefer, you can read some of the more anti-Russia scholars I cited, like Peter Zeihand: https://twitter.com/PeterZeihan/status/1495884492480913409/p...

I know there were issues about the genocides in the Balkans in the 1990s. But, in that case, he wasn't saying that there weren't massacres taking place -- he was saying that the US was selectively engaging for geopolitical reasons, not humanitarian ones.

I am for keeping Ukraine as a neutral buffer separating Russia and the US.

NATO proposed Ukrainian and Georgian membership of NATO in 2005-2008, in the clear knowledge that this would destabilize the situation.

France, Germany, and others were against this. The proposal began the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs

We then openly backed the 2014 putsch in Kiev, an open act of aggression just as irresponsible as a military incursion. CIA John Brennan, Senator John McCain, and Diplomat Victoria Nuland were there in Ukraine when Yanukovych was being overthrown. There is also evidence to show that we were involved through NGOs in overthrowing and promoting an atmosphere desiring the overthrow of Yanukovych.

This war is about more than just Putin.

Research: George Friedman, Peter Zeihan, John Mearsheimer, Peter Hitchens, Noam Chomsky (more of an ideologue), etc. on this issue. You can start on YouTube OR read their books, I guess.

These are all PhDs or experts in some fashion that I just cited. You could just read their books too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mearsheimer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Friedman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Zeihan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hitchens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky

"F* the EU" said Diplomat Victoria Nuland -- knowing full well that the Germans and French would be against a coup in then-neutral Ukraine.

Meanwhile, once again, soon after the Iraq debacle: here we are getting dragged into another "war for democracy".

Russia and America turned Ukraine into a "if we can't have, burn it to the ground" situation. Further American intervention in Ukraine will just turn it into another Syria.

How are they "pro-Kremlin"?

They are pro-peace pro-realpolitik. Not "pro-Kremlim".

Peter Zeihan is openly not pro-Kremlim. He predicts that Russia will collapse. As does George Friedman.

Please think before you type?

Do you not recall the Victoria Nuland tape that leaked? "F** the EU" she said -- knowing full well that the Germans and French would be against a coup in then-neutral Ukraine.

I am for keeping Ukraine as a neutral buffer separating Russia and the US.

NATO proposed Ukrainian and Georgian membership of NATO in 2005-2008, in the clear knowledge that this would destabilize the situation.

France, Germany, and others were against this. The proposal began the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs

We then openly backed the 2014 putsch in Kiev, an open act of aggression just as irresponsible as a military incursion. CIA John Brennan, Senator John McCain, and Diplomat Victoria Nuland were there in Ukraine when Yanukovych was being overthrown. There is also evidence to show that we were involved through NGOs in overthrowing and promoting an atmosphere desiring the overthrow of Yanukovych.

Russia and America turned Ukraine into a "if we can't have, burn it to the ground" situation.

I am for keeping Ukraine as a neutral buffer separating Russia and the US.

NATO proposed Ukrainian and Georgian membership of NATO in 2005-2008, in the clear knowledge that this would destabilize the situation.

France, Germany, and others were against this. The proposal began the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs

We then openly backed the 2014 putsch in Kiev, an open act of aggression just as irresponsible as a military incursion. CIA John Brennan, Senator John McCain, and Diplomat Victoria Nuland were there in Ukraine when Yanukovych was being overthrown. There is also evidence to show that we were involved through NGOs in overthrowing and promoting an atmosphere desiring the overthrow of Yanukovych.

Or, this could turn Ukraine into another Syria.

Meanwhile, once again, soon after the Iraq debacle: here we are getting dragged into another "war for democracy".

OK. Then, try listening to some of the other guys?

Yes, Chomsky is an ideologue. I disagree with him on many issues.

More importantly, it is surprising that you're just attacking him in general rather than specifically on what he said with regards to Russia/Ukraine. His thoughts on the matter seem perfectly reasonable to me.

And, can you please point me to where he denied genocides? I'd love to know. Like I said though, I don't worship him. He's wrong on many issues, IMO.