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I am all for making Poland and the Baltics a hard red-line front that we protect against Russia. But, taking Ukraine from Russia in this non-neutral manner is just wrong. We can easily hold the Polish and Baltic fronts. And, Russia can live with that too. We can then trade as usual.

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> But, taking Ukraine from Russia in this non-neutral manner

Taking Ukraine from Russia? What have Russia the right to take Ukraine from (checks) Ukraine?

The same "right" the US would have had with Cuba if Khrushchev didn't remove the missiles, or the same "right" the US exercises when a small country with oil ponders denominating it in a different currency.

And US was also fucking wrong. Imperialism is evil.

Agreed. You have to ask yourself though: Why is the Western media so intent on cleaning Russia's house, while vehemently denying, dutifully downplaying, the West's own squalor?

It is a truly striking example of "the beam and the mote." After we remove the beam from our own eye, I will be glad to address Russia's splinter.

Coming from ex-USSR, West's issues are minuscule compared to the ones that Russia brings. I love having petty first world problems compared to what people 100km east from me deals. It's just entirely different leagues of issues.

And reading Western media, it usually downplays Russian issues and present West's much bolder than they truly are.

At the same time US supported right of self determination after WW1. That allowed many small states to pop up in eastern/central europe. Which, IMO, was the last nail in the coffin of several empires.

What gives US the right to take Ukraine from Ukraine? Thats where the story started

> Thats where the story started

Did I miss the bit where the US invaded Ukraine in effort to take it over?

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