vitalyan8184

>To everyone here pushing for total proliferation of ...

...general-purpose computers

...unbreakable encryption

...unbackdoored communication

...unkillswitched vehicles

...unsurveiled dwellings

>what should be done about ...?

nothing

>Do you seriously want this level of capabilities to be generally available with no guardrails?

yes

nvidia and amd don't give a flying fuck about end users right now while they can milk triple digit markups from infinite money VCs via data center GPUs.

they have some consciousness, but again, not as much as a human. and again, most of humans lived in similarly abhorrent conditions throughout most of the history.

again, you're ascribing human level of consciousness to much simpler creatures driven primarily by instinct.

and you are aware that even humans, with our much longer lifespan and much higher cognition, can endure living in captivity for years just fine, right? hell, even outside of captivity, a double digit percentage of us doesn't have a single room of living space, and the only outside most of us see is covered with asphalt and concrete.

in civilized countries, industrially farmed animals live short, uneventful lives devoid of hunger and pain, injury and disease, heat and cold, then die instant, painless deaths. in the wild, the kind of animals we farm rarely get to die of old age - most end up being mauled and eaten alive by predators.

their lives are only bad if you assume they possess adult human level of conscience, which they obviously don't.

is it? from where I stand, hn seems to be one of the exceptionally few remaining places where the mods don't take sides so the obnoxious minority doesn't get to win arguments by silencing everyone else like they do everywhere else.

oh, I've no doubt the US government and giga corporations can get zero data retention without ten pages of fine print. the rest of us can't.

with open weight models, you have three other options

A) use a provider that pinky-swears not to store your data. they obviously don't give a fuck about 'distillation attacks', so they have little motivation to voluntarily monitor and store your queries. reasonably high likelihood of privacy.

B) rent the hardware and run the model yourself. very high likelihood of privacy.

C) buy the hardware and run the model yourself. absolute certainty of privacy.