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upquark··on Moneyball teams
> Nowadays, my primary criteria for joining a team is the quality of the people and of the manager.

That's mine too, but nowadays teams and especially managers last about 6 months in one place. What is one supposed to do?

upquark··on Bonobo – A data processing toolkit for Python 3.5+
Totally a preference thing. I strongly prefer pandas to dplyr having worked with both.
upquark··on Jeff Bezos explains the perfect way to make risky business decisions
How much of success is luck? I honestly don't know. It feels like another feel-good mantra coming out of SV culture. Most successful people I know or have heard of do not fit the profile of an average Joe (including qualities that are pre-set at birth and cannot change with success).
upquark··on Turkey is sliding into dictatorship
> bilateral clash

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising

upquark··on Turkey is sliding into dictatorship
What makes reddit and now HN think Ataturk was some sort of beacon of democracy?

> In January 1920, Mustafa Kemal advanced his troops into Marash where the Battle of Marash ensued against the French Armenian Legion. The battle resulted in a Turkish victory alongside the massacres of 5,000–12,000 Armenians spelling the end of the remaining Armenian population in the region.

He finished off the Cilician Armenians from Anatolia, whoever was left under French protection and had escaped the Genocide.

upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
> Defining the set of real numbers is very different from defining all real numbers.

I'm saying that ^ sentence makes no sense to me, I don't know how to parse it formally. If you start talking about the set of "definable" numbers (not computable, but specifically "definable"), I believe you're gonna run into paradoxes as it's an ill-defined concept, similar (in spirit) to "all integers described under 100 words". In fact, the linked article actually talks about it in 2.3.

> For any given language, like for instance ZFC, we can say that definable numbers are a countable subset. Hence measure zero.

If I can describe a set of objects, then we're all set as far as I'm concerned (mathematically speaking). Being able to efficiently construct individual elements of this set using Turing machines or other computational devices is an orthogonal problem.

Also, I don't think having only countable number of utterances in ZFC precludes you from having well-defined uncountable sets described in that system (quite obviously, for any set S take 2^S which is very well-defined).

upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
Then we mean different things by define. I am saying the set R (with all its elements) is an uncontroversial, well-defined construction within ZFC.

I am leaving out any linguistic or Turing-computability aspects out of this, and people try to bring it back in, mixing computability with definability.

For instance, Chaitin's constant is a perfectly well-defined number, albeit uncomputable by construction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitin%27s_constant

upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
I said "and other groups that reject all infinite constructions". Some schools of thought within that general intuitionist/constructivist/etc branch of mathematical logic do reject all infinite constructions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finitism

Either way, my point above was that this entire branch is not "mainstream math" by any means, AFAIK

upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
Oh it's definitely more real, as in it belongs to R and not to any of its extensions. You guys realize that the definition of R is non-controversial in modern math, right? There are fringe theories like constructivist logic and other groups that reject all infinite constructions, but this is not the consensus view among practicing mathematicians...

The way you defined that number makes it a perfectly valid element of the set R, as described by, say, the axiomatic definition here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_number#Axiomatic_approach

Whether it's easy or hard or computationally intractable to compare it to other numbers, that's a totally different question unrelated to its definition.

Plus, you can actually empirically compute a finite set of initial digits (a specific Turing machine can be analyzed to see if it terminates or not), so you can compare this number with one that's constructed by flipping its digits, or with pi, etc.

upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
No, my "ill-defined" means "will lead to contradictions if you look too closely", not "I haven't exactly specified what it means".
upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
Yes but you defined the number just fine, right? "Compute" is a separate issue from "define", you can't compute a lot of things. Is this going in the intuitionistic logic direction?
upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
Still not sure I follow. Set of non-kings is not ill-defined, not in the same way as set of numbers non-describable by any formal system is.
upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
My example is incomplete, not faulty. I left it as a question (does the inf belong to the set?). If the answer is yes, we reached a contradiction. If the answer is no, we have to continue further zooming in to this interval (or some other construction along those lines).

See, I claim that this set is ill-defined, so I can't know its properties like whether or not it's dense, open, closed, Borel-measurable, etc. etc.

You have to tell me what its properties are, and I will come up with a concrete proof that the set in question is ill-defined.

EDIT: After I RTFA'd, this is actually the paradox in section 2.3 of the linked article

upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
Wait, you're agreeing with me that the set in question is ill-defined, but still somehow comparable to other sets? I am not sure I follow. My statement is that you cannot meaningfully talk about "all the numbers that cannot be described with language". If you could, I'd ask you if this set intersected with [0, 1] has a lower bound / 'inf' that's contained in it, and if so, did I just describe that lower bound with language? I'm sure some sort of paradox similar to the one with integers can be constructed here...

In my view, every real number is well-defined and there's nothing controversial about the set of real numbers. If the infinite aspect of it causes some researchers to call it a "mathematical fantasy", so be it, so is literally every other mathematical model we use in our lives.

upquark··on How real are real numbers? (2004)
"Real numbers that cannot be defined with language" is not a well-defined set though. Just like "integers that cannot be described in less than 100 words" is not well-defined (I could reach a contradiction by pointing to the "smallest integer that cannot be described in less than 100 words").
upquark··on Chase had ads on 400k sites, then on just 5k, with same results
$25 - two sandwiches from Toasties baby :o
upquark··on Staying Rich Without Manufacturing Will Be Hard
Do the esteemed downvoters care to substantiate their position with anything other than "my daddy said so" anecdotes?
upquark··on Big Tech Company Salaries Are Hurting Startups
Is this slave mentality or what?

If I make 350k+, and a startup is telling me I should take their 150k base + worthless options deal, or else I've "pigeonholed myself in the current role" (actual quote), I think they're just being stupid and unrealistic.

upquark··on Staying Rich Without Manufacturing Will Be Hard
This whole discussion is setting off my BS detectors (your comments specifically, dad with HS degree vs 'the Chinese', etc), and to be honest, the whole tribal knowledge thing may be much more wishful thinking than an actual true effect...
upquark··on Basque and Georgian – are they related? (2015)
It's just that the answer to the question posed in the headline is a definite 'no'. This type of silly inquiry into "is Azeri related to Sumerian", "is Georgian related to Chinese" etc. is very common in that part of the world, and is largely pseudo-scientific at its core.

As for ML methods, I know for a fact that modern Bayesian inference techniques have been successfully applied in comparative linguistics and proto-language reconstruction.

upquark··on Study: Immigrants Founded 51% of U.S. Billion-Dollar Startups
> It looks like every kind of screening of immigrants will deter the more desirable ones

As someone who self-selected the name 'bayesian_horse', can you please cite the evidence you're basing this on?

upquark··on Ask HN: What books fundamentally changed the way you think about the world?
Strange not to see Nietzsche here. Twilight of the Idols was his first book I read, then I ended up reading all the others without taking a break. Can't agree with everything he says, but it definitely resulted in making a 180 degree in my views on religion and morality.
upquark··on I don't understand Python's Asyncio
Your annoyingly patronizing tone aside, I'll try to address what you're saying.

> ...the class hierarchy: as an example, in Pharo Smalltalk you have the following hierarchy: ProtoObject -> Object -> Collection -> SequencableCollection -> ArrayedCollection -> String

Seems ridiculously over-engineered to me, but whatever, let's keep going..

> with the "reduce" method being declared on Collection class (reduce being the easiest way to implement "join").

'reduce' and 'join' are very different things. one is a generic function (aka fold, also exists in python as 'reduce'), the other is a string concatenation method that takes an iterable and produces a string. the latter can be implemented via the former, but they're not the same thing. no one's stopping you from using 'reduce' in Python instead of the built-in string member function 'join', btw.

> So in short: no. There are many interesting languages which implement various interesting techniques which solve various problems

Ugh, i give up :)

upquark··on I don't understand Python's Asyncio
I meant "minor point" relative to the other points. It's all relative and subjective, of course, I never said otherwise.

Also, doesn't seem like you read the actual argument following the first sentence :)

upquark··on I don't understand Python's Asyncio
> "a.b".split(".") and ["a", "b"].join(".")

Seems like a minor point to me, really. Sure, join could've been a member function of the list class, but that would prevent applying it to arbitrary iterables, no? In other words, delimiter.join(items) is more general than items.join(delimiter), because in the latter join must be a member function of the class of items or its ancestor class, and you won't be able to apply it to other iterable objects.

I haven't had much interaction with Ruby, but from my limited experience the syntax felt strictly less intuitive than Python. The only other languages where syntax felt more intuitive to me than Python is the ML family (with derivatives like OCaml, etc).

upquark··on I don't understand Python's Asyncio
> not a very inviting home to live in, a kind of non euclidean space

Hmm, i've always felt the exact opposite, that Python feels just right syntax-wise (this after years of C/C++, Perl, bash, JavaScript, etc).

What would be your example of a language residing in "euclidean space"?

upquark··on The Unreasonable Reputation of Neural Networks
Same could've been said about every aspect of human progress, if we had asked philosophers to opine (they opine anyway, but the civilization moves forward regardless).
upquark··on The Unreasonable Reputation of Neural Networks
Not being able to imagine how method A may produce result B is no evidence against method A. It may very well be evidence towards lack of imagination :)
upquark··on Santa Claus Confirms NSA Attack on Naughty or Nice Database
Yeah, the algorithm needs its viral hook: being good enough is not enough, you need to spam 10 people with this message to achieve full redemption.
upquark··on A Quick Puzzle to Test Your Problem Solving
Your task is to learn a class of objects by example. Without seeing any negative examples, you're unlikely to learn the right class (which is unique, it is precisely the class of increasing sequences of length 3). (x, 2x, 4x) is not "a correct answer", as it does not describe the class you were supposed to learn to distinguish.
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