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TBF there are orgs at companies whose sole role is to play DEFENSE - lawyers, CSO etc… if they deem something too risky it IS their job to block it, and then it’s up to upper management to override them if the situation calls for it.

Now that said they should still try to advance the mission within that framework, and not be lazy.

Tech salaries have ALREADY fallen and tech workers have already been largely treated as cogs. Yes it could get even worse but I get why they’re taking their chances

His moat is his price. And it absolutely is a moat because most bigger competitors would not bother competing in the segment with even lower prices, as there’d be no upside

Correction: These _investors_ have too much money

Actually it’s a step further: these _LPs_ have too much money

Like, cause of tiredness, or not being able to focus, or sheer boredom? Which one, or something else?

Put more charitably, there are always problems facing society

Well yeah that’s what I said… my main point was that unless you job hop into a faang, you’re quickly at the ceiling

And once you’re in a faang, there’s no higher to go

Good employers exist. It’s crazy the number of people who get burned a couple of times and declare the industry is sheet and they have to do their own thing or their life is doomed

Isn’t there a very real cap of say 200-225k for senior level regardless of where you go tho?

After that would be faang which itself is the endgame except (in some cases) jumping between faangs could get you more

Crazy, that’s approaching OpenAI pay… is it in the AI area?

Only the megacap ones.

For the other smaller but still public companies you need to be staff+ to hit that, and even then no guarantees

Damn that last sentence is depressing. What keeps you going?

How many of them are both geographically close enough and discoverable enough tho?

Uh oh!

Honestly thought it would be worse

There are plenty of big tech or big tech adjacent public traded company jobs paying far better that are still majority coding and with a lot less speed pressure than an early stage startup, among other things allowi Ng for an earlier retirement.

Will take one of those instead, any day.

Happy for you that you have a decently monetizable passion!

I think if most disgruntled devs put honest thought into it like you did, they would reach the same conclusion, I certainly did, esp with a family.

I have also started to try getting more aggressive with investments

Bingo if you can get a decent package and their stock continues to do well, that is life changing money

RTO has been instituted and there not much you can do to prepare for a whole career change when in the office…

And esp for those with families they might be dependent on big tech comp to support their family in high CoL areas, else have to move their kids and school or make big lifestyle downgrades

Management holds the cards and they know it. Lesson for workers is to live way below your means while you still can

Be real, it’s google. They could layoff 10k every month for another year and still have people lining up from around the world to get in

In this tech job environment the US google employee is willing to do as many 11:30 nights as needed to keep his high paying tech job, and management knows it

I mean, it’s way easier to buy GOOG than get hired there, just sayin…

There’s still arbitrage to be had - gains are often in percentage terms so when you downsize or move to a cheaper area you pocket the difference. You could also own more than one property, do sweat equity to increase value etc. I could go on.

Ah I see

Were they lowballing or are those salaries just the new market rate?

“If everybody sees it coming, it’s not coming.”

Nah, even among married couples it’s still way down. Costs and incentives are just way misaligned right now

Those “robber barons” are also the source of most tech jobs and how most of us here earn a living

It’s a business. It will by default do the easiest and least riskiest thing to make as much money as possible.