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We made it using framer, will take a look how to optimize that, thanks for the feedback!

We don’t manage anything else than transactional messages at the moment.

Do you have a marketing use case ? If so I would be eager to understand your main pain points.

We can handle any kind of transactional message and take care of registration on your behalf. Happy to chat further if this interesting for you.

Hey! We might be able to help, built prelude.so for exactly that reason and many other (fraud prevention, multi-routing...). We had to built an internal solution for this back at Zenly which pushed us to create this tool!

What is your main use case?

Hey! We built prelude.so for exactly that reason and many other (fraud prevention, multi-routing...). We had to built an internal solution for this back at Zenly which pushed us to create this tool!

All those strategies are a great first layer of protection, we see however of tool fraud attacks in which these protections don’t suffice, it could be part of those fraudsters business model to even by-pass capcha.

Seams like twilio is now offering some kind of protection but it doesn’t comes free.

We built ding.live for that reason, a different pricing in which we don’t rely on overselling the sms price so we don’t have to look for extra margin when less are sent due to better fraud protection.

I don't know about Plivo but if you're looking to do phone number verification we built a system for this https://www.ding.live/ with goal of improving conversion while reducing cost you can sign up there directly https://app.ding.live/sign-up.

I would be happy to understand more about what you're trying to solve don't hesitate to reach out to my email.

The article mention sms tool fraud as the biggest increase.. We faced the same problem at Zenly and had to build our own anti-spam strategies to prevent it. We used multiple providers to improve our conversion rate and reduce cost. We are now building this as a service https://www.ding.live/ and are seeing huge improvements for our customers in term of cost savings and conversion rate.

Reducing cost can be difficult in this space, we've been working on this for a while at Ding by leveraging different route and channel, maybe we can help.

Don't hesitate to ping me directly matias@ding.live

Well phone number can always be re attributed to a real user so it’s rare that a deny list is the only indicator used to prevent fraud, at least that’s not how our antispam works at https://ding.live :)

They often take a share of the revenue from those attacks through iprn number or other fraud schemes

Yes, it's hard to rely on delivery report, we don't rely on this to evaluate the conversion on a given route.

Thanks for sharing the testing tools super helpful !

We use a combinaison of route that are are evaluated in real-time for their cost to conversion ratio. Our customers have the option to choose only « direct routes » if needed but those strategies are use at scale by players like Facebook, TikTok or Google we’re just making sure our customer have all the options, visibility and control on their conversion rate/price tradeoff. Another strategy that allows to lower cost significantly is the use of alternative channel when available and competitive : Google RBM, WhatsApp, Viber, line.. Last but not least we don’t do any margin on the sms price so we bill back exactly what we pay for and negotiate with aggregated volumes.

We faced the same problem at Zenly and had to build our own anti-spam strategies to prevent it. We used multiple providers to improve our conversion rate and reduce cost. We are now building this as a service https://www.ding.live/ and are seeing huge improvements for our first customers in term of cost savings and conversion rate. Feel free to reach out if it could be any interest to you hello@ding.live.

We faced the same problem at Zenly and had to build our own anti-spam strategies to prevent it since Twilio was not taking care of the problem for us. We used multiple providers to improve our conversion rate and reduce cost. We are now building this as a service https://www.ding.live/ and are seeing huge improvements for our first customers in term of cost savings and conversion rate. Feel free to reach out if it could be any interest to you hello@ding.live.

strange, they choose signal to communicate https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/24/21150918/european-commiss...

There's a little bug on the landing, you can't press any of the top bar buttons as long as you haven't scrolled enough.

There's also a service called Azure ACI which is pretty much the same thing as fargate

An alternative that will soon support multi master is rancher/k3s if you want a lightweight k8

I enjoy listening to your podcast every week ! Thank for your work What a small world here on hn

Docker was a school project at the origin. The CTO of vente privée said in multiple interview how he use to be challenged in his previous school.

There is a bunch of successful companies led by graduate from theses kind of school. Check out vente privée CTO. Another example could be the core team that developed docker that was from there as well.

Very cool ! Seeing the french gov having a post on hn is amazing !

Interesting project. How do you achieve theses performances ?

Another alternative is using hyper container