So how do you get word of mouth going when nobody I know, not even 2nd degree connections, know anyone that is hiring? It really sucks to be in this position.
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So how do you get word of mouth going when nobody I know, not even 2nd degree connections, know anyone that is hiring? It really sucks to be in this position.
I got into web development in the last 2000's doing PHP backend development and CMS work, and now everyone seems to have gotten into more opinionated dev environments that really involve anything but PHP.
I have worked in multiple small (~20 employee) companies, most for over a year and a half. I have 8 years of total experience as a web developer. During that time I have not made any reliable long term contacts that can refer me to any relevant work.
Second, ALL of my past jobs have paid 40-50% of the local market rate. Each one I have earned more money, but it's still well below average for the large Midwest city that I'm in.
Every few months I return to Facebook, post to my feed so friends can see, announcing that I'm still looking for work and if anyone knows someone looking for a web developer. Usually I get no replies.
So you see, even with my years of experience, I have been unable to rely on a network for jobs, and recruiters have also been ineffective.
Now, with this new information I have given you, I am more curious to see what you would suggest, as something more tailor-made to my career experience.
The other kind is the one where the product is very pie-in-the-sky, requires multiple breakthroughs in the process of making said product, and the creator shows a clear lack of expertise or reputation in the disciplines for making the product.
Often, the people that take the bait in the second group are an extreme case of wishful thinking of wanting their past vision of the future (which is today) to be full of wonderful tech products, and they see something remotely futuristic and throw their money at it.
Companies can talk about cost reducing by cutting their workforce all they want, but I wonder how many stop and think how that would negatively impact the purchasing power of their former employees.
As someone who has no good network, is there any other good way? I tend to read "X really matters" as "X is essential" in that without X you're nothing. I don't believe in essential ingredients- I believe that, as professional life is very open-ended, there is a multitude of good recipes for success in which there is no common ingredient.
In short, my degree was very "bootcamp-y" in nature, in a decade before coding bootcamps became very popular. Even worse, I think bootcamps have made a lot of my 4-year degree obsolete.
I got a few jobs at mom & pop places, I've consulted for a media agency, and yes, most were indeed contract jobs. But these jobs are not stable as working for a major tech corporation. And these are not places that allow me to really refine my engineering skills and learn how things are developed to a large scale. Building websites for clients that do not intend to grow on a national level are what you'd be limited to if you don't learn the theory behind programming.
However, I have no interest in building my own agency business. I'm a very technical guy through and through. I am an autodidact with a dilemma in which I want to follow the mainstream career path of a CS graduate. One that is marked by working as an engineer reputable companies and connections in these companies. But trying to do that with a self-taught background and with no friends that know me well enough to refer me in a professional capacity, it's been a very rough road.
Out of my 100-ish Facebook friends that I consider to know to some reasonable degree in person, only one is a software engineer, like me, and he lives very far away. Being self-taught is really hard, especially if you do not have any peers that you can learn from.
And this also separates what people call "startups" from small companies. All startups start out as small companies, but they don't comprise all small companies. They look and follow the value that will require them to grow.
I think, indeed, that a company must value engineering if they want to grow really big. If they don't, then engineering/tech is not made a priority.
The problem I see with Chicago is that there are no unicorns/tech co's that make many people outside of the area say "I really want to move to Chicago to work there!" Doesn't have the same pull as the west coast hubs.
I worked for more companies that had problems with their budget or even payroll after stepping into the programming career, than I have when I was working jobs with a lower entry barrier like cashier or workshop assistant. I never had an employer burn me money-wise before becoming a programmer.
I'd get it not just because I'm a space travel buff but because of the scale- it's a meter tall! Great job bringing out the immense size of the Saturn V, in Lego form.
First job out of college took about three months of applying.
Second job, six month.
Third job was a wash, went 8 months freelancing for bits of cash before I went to company at job no. 1 to consult for them. But the pay was terrible.
Fourth job I took after 6 months of applying. Then I got laid off late 2014.
And I couldn't get a full time job since.
I am not so naive to think I'm the only one like this. But for at least a few, the job market has gotten less forgiving. My experience is not helping balance that out.
It really is true that networking is a high cost (in time) but high payoff approach. That is also why, when time is of the essence, networking is not a realistic option.
The longer you go without a job, the faster you want to get hired. But networking, you can't rush that. I know at least that much.
That's mostly why I posted this question- to at least get some rough idea of how much of my competition is entering "cold". I've talked to people on LinkedIn, where I'm from (Chicago) I talk to people in the immediate area. They don't answer back much, they probably have busy lives, but I wear my job search on my sleeve.
Remote: yes (have 18 months prior experience)
Willing to relocate: open to discussion
Technologies:
* Back-end: LAMP stack, MySQL and MongoDB, CodeIgniter MVC, Node.js
* Front-end: vanilla JS, jQuery, React, Vue, D3.js, CSS/SASS, NPM, Grunt
* Misc: Personal graphics and game projects in .NET (XNA and MonoGame), C++ (SDL, DirectX), HLSL, WebGL
Resume: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5uruhj23kxr30g3/Chris_Cajas_resume...
Email: chris.cajas.m [gmail] [dot] com
Several years of web dev experience in smaller teams, including startup and agency environments. Open to work at larger companies. Graduated with a BFA in New Media in fall 2007. In addition to web dev, I also have an interest in computer graphics, embedded programming (Arduino/AVR), game programming and data viz.
I'm a web developer with several years of experience. Mostly back-end web development, but have gotten more front-end experience more recently. I've worked on and off since 2007, and have 18 months of remote experience as a contractor.
Graduated with a BFA in New Media in fall 2007. In addition to web dev, I also have an interest in computer graphics, game programming and data viz.
I'm mostly experienced working in very small teams in startup and agency environments. For some perspective, the largest codebase I have used is Magento for an e-commerce client. But I'm open to larger companies as well.
* Back-end: LAMP stack, MySQL and MongoDB, CodeIgniter MVC, Node.js
* Front-end: vanilla JS, jQuery, React, Vue, D3.js, CSS/SASS, NPM, Grunt
* Create MVP's for small startups and non-profit orgs, including some high level design/planning
* Maintenance of legacy apps and refactoring for new features
* Misc: Graphics and game projects in .NET (XNA and MonoGame), C++ (SDL, DirectX), HLSL, WebGL
Contact info / websites
* Github: http://github.com/ccajas
* Codepen: http://codepen.io/ccajas
* Sample project: http://ccajas.github.io/JS-TinyRenderer
* GameDev Stack Exchange: https://gamedev.stackexchange.com/users/9789/chrisc (top 8%)
* Mailto: chris.cajas.m [gmail] [dot] com