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tmp-fuchsia··on Comparing Fuchsia components and Linux containers [video]
That’s a narrative I’ve heard before, and there’s probably some truth to it.

There’s the product side, and there’s the technical side. I’m not sure what qualifies as “senior leadership,” but when a VP finally stepped into the org, all the ambitious product ideas were cut, and we landed on Nest as a product. Until then, I believe it was mostly courtship and sales pitches (I wasn’t in the room).

Apologies if this comes across as harsh, but Fuchsia always seemed to suffer from poor product judgment. I think it’s only healthy to acknowledge that. That said, it’s not entirely surprising—good product people don’t tend to stay very long at Google.

Yes, there was a mobile shell briefly. There was also a desktop shell. I think the narrative you’re describing could be better framed as a series of attempts and experiments to see if Fuchsia could find a use case and client. That doesn’t necessarily mean there was a concrete plan that was seriously contended or scrutinized.

Just to clarify, these are my personal opinions and observations. I don’t actually know what went on behind closed doors, but I’m not sure it’s all that useful to know either, for the reasons I mentioned above.

tmp-fuchsia··on Comparing Fuchsia components and Linux containers [video]
I haven’t watched this talk, but I worked on Fuchsia from the start (I’m no longer at Google) and want to clear up some common questions and misconceptions:

1. Fuchsia is a general-purpose operating system built to support Google’s consumer hardware.

2. It’s not designed to compete with or replace Android. Its goal is to replace Linux, which Android is built on. One big challenge it addresses is Linux’s driver problem. If Fuchsia succeeds, Android apps could run on it.

Fuchsia isn’t trying to replace Android. Its survival for over a decade—through layoffs and with hundreds still working on it—says a lot.

I can’t predict Fuchsia’s future, but it’s already running on millions of devices. The git logs show big strides in running Linux programs on Fuchsia without recompilation, as well as progress on the Android runtime. The best way to predict Fuchsia’s future is to look at its hardware architecture support and which runtime is getting attention.

Fuchsia’s success will likely depend more on market forces than on technical innovation. Linux is “good enough” for most needs, and its issues may not justify switching. The choice between sticking with Linux or moving to Fuchsia often favors Linux.

Still, I hope Fuchsia succeeds.