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tlibert··on Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training
Dog fighting is a type of blood sport that turns game and fighting dogs against each other in a physical fight, often to the death, for the purposes of gambling or entertainment to the spectators.[1] In rural areas, fights are often staged in barns or outdoor pits; in urban areas, fights are often staged in garages, basements, warehouses, alleyways, abandoned buildings, neighborhood playgrounds, or in the streets.[2][3] Dog fights usually last until one dog is declared a winner, which occurs when one dog fails to scratch, dies, or jumps out of the pit.[4] Sometimes dog fights end without declaring a winner; for instance, the dog's owner may call off the fight.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_fighting

tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
I’m used to a quick fire response format for legal questioning. My words are carefully chosen, but I do reply quickly because I played every question in my head in advance.

The dig on downvotes however was intentionally cheeky. I’m well respected by many engineers who worked with me, no hard feelings, just a little teasing.

tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
We don’t process it, not our decorator.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Max is a lawyer, I'm an engineer. ;-)
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Oh, I very much am not.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
That's why webXray (https://webxray.ai) has perfected forensic privacy auditing - we catch every code change that has visible traces. I'll catch the same thing any way you do it - cookies, local storage, js obfuscated network payloads...no sweat. I'll go all day long.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Cookies serve a lot of valuable purposes, it's important to disambiguate.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Appreciated, means a lot.

I'm not surprised at the downvotes, but someday we all have to look in the mirror and decide if we like what we see, but it's easier to downvote in the meantime.

tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
We run scientific audits that provide evidence of specific data transfers under specific network conditions.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Ha, the question is always "which humans"!
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
For legal work you need a controlled forensic environment, this is evidence gathering in the same way a crime scene is. We've developed a lot of proprietary methods to ensure clean-room conditions.

That's not to say the idea isn't interesting, but in terms of legal proceedings, chain of custody with the forensic data is most important.

tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
That concept is applicable to the European Union, doesn't apply in California.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
2 quarters. ;-)
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
To quote our report: At webXray we are experts in tracking technologies, and we work closely with in-house counsel, defense, plaintiff firms, and regulators. However, we are not lawyers ourselves, thus nothing in this report represents a legal conclusion. webXray was not founded to supplant the role of lawyers, courts, or judges. We were founded to provide clear, accurate, forensic data, without fear or favor. We believe that by filling this gap we can enhance outcomes for all consumers, businesses, and regulators.

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We are filing the gap related to reliable facts not existing. We did a scientifically controlled test with GPC on and off. We presented the results as technical findings along with general background.

We are not lawyers, and we are happy to help others perform their own audits: https://webxray.ai - we have no desire to be lawyers.

We are a hard-tech engineering outfit, we deliver scientific clarity on complex topics.

tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
No idea, I thought it was a valid question and we go to great lengths in our methodology for this reason. The audits we supply for enterprise are highly specific as to cookie purpose for this reason: https://webxray.ai
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
That's their decision, our report is very factually designed: https://globalprivacyaudit.org
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
And the tellers of truth keep telling the truth.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Thanks, California is our first audit, more countries and topics to come!
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Being the best in the world at what you do and not being allowed to do it is...not the greatest job. ;-)
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Execs are paid in stock, the only consequence that would matter is missing revenue projections for 2 quarters in a row, that's yet to happen.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
So this is the first audit in our Global Privacy Audit, we're going to keep going. California was the warm up, we're going world-wide with this, our technology scales 1:1 with theirs.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
This report relies on several year old technology on our part, our more cutting systems are a few years beyond SOTA, and I can there's a lot more under the surface.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
The only reason I ever click reject is to open the devtools and count the ads cookies still set. I managed to turn that hobby into https://webxray.ai as a business.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Yes, only true solutions are network layer severing.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Still waiting on a public recognition from a company I helped quietly fix a serious problem. I'm generally on the side of helping people fix, revealing what's going on publicly isn't our first preference.

(And to the person who resolved the issue with the Major AI Company - would it really hurt to give a shout-out for the help we gave you?)

tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
I won't lie, I miss the Staff/L6 paycheck and lack of stress. This is way less money for way more stress, but I chart my own path. I'm proud of what my company https://webxray.ai is doing.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
I've been at this 15 years now, and it's neither the first nor last thing I'll do. We call the site "Global Privacy Audit" because California is first. The laws in California are weaker than elsewhere in the world. This is a warm up for the main dish.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Luckily "trust me bro" is not a defense in court - there is a thing called "discovery" when they have to prove their claims. The fact is few regulators ever use it, but class-action cases often do.

Guess who's winning?

tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
Just update the codebase, much easier, 10 minutes.
tlibert··on Google, Microsoft, Meta All Tracking You Even When You Opt Out
We look at 2 examples of third-party HTTP cookies and 1 example of javascript. It's both, you have to defend on a complex terrain.
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