throwawaz6729

>Values don't play any role in politics

I'm at a complete loss as to why you would write that, to me this is like reading "Politicians don't have any role in defining laws" or something - like, we must be using some completely different definitions for you to write that, it's not even disagreement, I clearly have no idea what you have in mind.

Does your definition of value match this (second definition): https://www.google.com/search?q=define+value

like, I literally don't understand why you would write that unless we're just really misreading each other due to wildly different definitions of what you're talking about. If your definition of value doesn't match the above, then what definition are you using?

can you talk abut why "if they did want to conscript all young men" it means that they are subject to involuntary draft currently? What I mean is that it would take a positive action to instate a draft, right?

Would it be harder legally to "want to conscript all people (men and women)"? What I mean is even though women are not registered for selective service, if you were to "enable" conscription couldn't you just also require that they register? If this is the case isn't it fair to say instead of "men are subject to involuntary draft" it is more accurate to say "men are one record-keeping action closer to an involuntary draft"?

If there's a bigger difference I'd like to understand that difference.

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>Countries don't have values

This is correct in an extremely narrow sense, in the same narrow sense that "there is no such thing as a country." This is because countries are political abstractions, and do not exist as a physical entity, like say, a chair, or a pomegranate.

If we understand "country" to instead refer to the group of people who organize under that system, then you are completely mistaken that "countries don't have values."

You can see this for yourself right now. If it's not too cold, you could strip naked and take a walk in your town for an hour or two.

As you are almost in a country where this is against the local values, you will very likely be asked to dress, or even arrested.

But why?

You said "countries don't have values, countries have interests." So whose "interests" is it for a man (or woman I guess) not to be naked? Well, right, the people living there.

This is just one example of how you can easily see that there are certainly values that are represented by the population, municipality, country, etc.

it's kind of silly to argue that there are no such values. I've just given one example, but I could easily list dozens if you don't find it convincing (just ask me to).