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> We differ in what we think is "wrong."

What is meant by "wrong" here is "this is more work than it should be to accomplish the desired result...so let's create some infrastructure to make these types of things simpler"

> "Yeah, I know this obscure name is already used for an open source project and I just don't care"

Curious how you jump to this conclusion. Not to burst your bubble, but the overwhelming majority of programmers even have likely never heard of the Midori browser. Additionally, the Midori browser did not invent this word, it is a Japanese word...and also the name of a band, the name of an olympic figure skater, the name of a liquor, all predating the browser.

Why on earth would people working on an internal Microsoft project go searching for obscure open source projects that might be using the same name before agreeing to move forward with the name?

These things have been around forever, no need for all that complexity:

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Persona-U-are-U-4500-Fingerpri...

More importantly, they've removed IntelliJ and Eclipse integration from the Solo/Indie plan to match Xamarin keeping Visual Studio integration out of their Indie plan.

Oh, wow, I am out of date. I didn't realize they had pivoted in that way. Sorry for the distraction :)

I'm sorry, could you explain in a bit more detail? It sounds like what you're saying is that your sister's husband signed up for 23andMe and sent in his DNA sample. Then, 23andMe said "based on your DNA, we believe another of our members is likely your niece, here is her contact info...". Then, your sister's husband contacted this person (the potential niece), and after some chatting it seemed likely that your sister's husband's brother was indeed the girl's biological father, and this was then later confirmed with additional DNA testing.

If this is in fact the story, doesn't this seem like an invasion of privacy on the part of 23andMe?

Few, if any, people are complaining about paying money for the tool. I don't know where comments like this are coming from.

What I, and most, are complaining about is the fact that they are turning their offerings into "rental only" software (a disturbing trend in the industry).

I have no problems paying JetBrains, and I do, every year, even for duplicate product offerings whose functionality is included in the main IntelliJ product because I love them so much.

I have a problem with rental only software that will stop working the second I stop paying you. I will no longer be a JetBrains customer if they do not bring back a perpetual license offering, and I have told them so.

See my other comment [1] for why customers are allowed to complain.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10170759

Let me actually clarify what you are saying for you, as I see this sentiment quite often and it drives me nuts.

You are saying that as a paying customer, one is not allowed to question any product or service offering they pay for (or even will potentially pay for as a potential customer). One is not allowed to suggest improvements. One is not allowed to state that if the company would modify the offering in some way, then they would again become a paying customer. One's only choices are to pay for the product/service as is or walk away and keep quiet.

One is also not allowed to mention to friends/acquaintances/colleagues that they are dissatisfied with the overall value of a product or service, or indicate that they do not believe the overall value to be worth it. As before, one's only choices here are to give good recommendations of the product/service to others or to not say anything at all.

"Take what we offer or walk away quietly and never speak of this again, those are your only choices."

This is essentially what you are saying. Are you sure that is what you want to be saying?