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throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
Private offices suck. The environment you want is ~5 developers per office. You get to build rapport with your coworkers, customize the physical space together, collaborate, differentiate yourselves from other teams. But you don't have to deal with Heather in recruiting telling Judy about the details of her wedding dress.
throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
Something I've always wondered about that maybe you could help me with. What does it mean to say that "Jesus died for our sins"?
throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
> i don't understand why you want to force a path

This isn't the right metaphor. I'm not trying to force a path; I have a very strong internal sense of a general direction I need to go. But there is no path in that direction. So I'm trying to forge one.

As for why that direction, I don't know of course. But if I were to speculate it's because I have a strong intuition that that's where my personal growth is.

throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
> Clarify what your goals are. Do you want to make money? Improve society? Work on intellectually challenging problems? Be happy?

Thank you, that is excellent advice.

throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
> If you're the kind of guy that needs to be burning, all the comments about the cycles of business, numbers, money and all that are not going to work for you.

No, they are not.

As to the rest of your post, I get your metaphors, but the path from understanding the metaphors to understanding how to turn that understanding into action is longer than you might think.

Could you give specific examples from your own life or from the lives of others? What does it mean to write down your conflicts? Is it writing down what all the subpersonalities want that's usually conflicting? And what do I then do with it? What does it mean to snap a branch off your culture's hierarchy or history? Become an activist? What does it mean to burn off what my lovers want burnt off? So far I've only burnt off what my lovers wanted me to keep, which is why they're not lovers anymore.

I appreciate your advice, but I need more specific guidance for it to work. Would you be willing to take the time to write that here? Also, could you tell a little bit of your own story? Who are you? What is your life like? (I'm not just asking out of curiosity; in this case it's important to know for the advice to work)

throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
A lot (most?) of the responses in this thread are "learn to leave work at work, fuck greedy capitalism, enjoy your family and hobbies". And most of those responses sound to me like they come from people with a lot of unresolved resentment and cynicism. I know that I can't do that.

But my god, the integration is hard. No one really prepares you for it. The old role models don't work because they're unwittingly or deliberately blind to this. (For example, I've never heard pg talk about this, even though ycombinator is practically a factory that inputs idealistic people and outputs people with experiences like mine) Biographies cover this quite superficially; you basically never hear from the person in their darkest hour.

I'm sure many people have gone through this, but to me it really feels like uncharted waters.

throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
If not identify a problem then find a solution, then what?
throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
Would you mind saying which nonprofit you joined? (or maybe throw out a couple of names of other non-profits, just as examples of what's possible)
throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
> Most importantly, know that the future is bright and that our best days are not only ahead of us, but always will be.

I've read (and watched) everything on your list of recommendations. Perhaps I should reread Deutch's chapter on optimism, but I don't have the same conviction that you do. Where does your conviction come from?

throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
I'd add open office plans to this. It's awful. You never quite get to focus, you don't build the rapport with your team, you don't get to customize your physical environment. Development really became a white collar version of the assembly line.
throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
Would you share yours? I'd really like to hear from an older person. I'd imagine you know 10x of what I do now. It would be incredibly helpful if you could share some of what you've experienced and learned.
throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
Thank you, I will consider it. I wonder what subset of these problems can be solved, and what subset is a fixed property of the human experience. I don't know yet. This is a massive problem, and a business is likely not the right vehicle to solve it. Political office might be, but everyone (myself included) seems disillusioned with that too. I'll think about it.
throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
> Now that you know how the system works, would you feel better about yourself had you succeeded? Would you feel guilty?

I think about that sometimes. Had I been one of the young optimistic CEOs running around talking about how to improve the world completely unaware of the tech underbelly, what would my life be like? If I had a button in front of me that would teleport me into that life, would I press it? I'm honestly not sure, but I'm leaning towards no. I want to learn how to integrate all this and learn to operate knowing what I know. I don't think I'd choose staying hopelessly naive for another thirty years. (Then again, I don't think they'd press the button to teleport into my life either.)

throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
Thanks for the advice. This all sounds right.

> I found that learning about politics and history-- specifically the history of engineering-- really helped me sort out my feelings.

Is there any specific reading you'd recommend?

throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
Thanks for the advice. It's really good.

> Think about all the food stands that you have walked past in your life, within each stand is an immigrant family who slave away for decades hoping for a better life. Have you ever thought about them and gave them time/money for their suffering?

I know what you mean and know what you're getting at. But I feel compelled to point out this particular example isn't quite the same. I never sought the immigrant family out, then told them that my motivation is to support amazing cooks rooted in authentic traditions. I just bought the food.

VCs will lie, literally. They explicitly say they will act in a particular way in a specific situation, and then, protected by nuanced 300 page contracts, will do the exact opposite of what they said they'll do. Assuming you accept that lying to people is unethical, people act transactionally with immigrant vendors, but not unethically in the same way.

throwaway839246··on Extremely disillusioned with technology. Please help
I did throw everything away. I walked away from ~$10M, so this isn't the problem.

To live in the present moment one has to unsee the cant. That's the difficult part. How to keep the mind from focusing on all the bullshit that it can't unsee. The burnout, the disillusionment, the politics, the faded friendships. That's what's hard.