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Yeah India, because a lot of people are having their lives ruined by scammers everyday. Get off your fucking high horse, it literally protects users. Before you start judging, do a simple search. It's not one off cases.

Looks like almost everybody would be worse off if Firefox went away and looks like nobody gives a shit if it's going away in part due to uncompetitive behaviour on iOS and largely because they don't seem to have a handle on the situation, investing left and right and not focusing on the browser.

Here's a thought, Mozilla does a lot of political campaigning, how about campaigning for open app stores and death to no other browser engine? Why not do this which seems like a do or die situation for them?

Are you implying Mozilla Firefox cares less about the user than Apple? Why not let Mozilla have it's browser on iOS? It's not about the user, it's about having an iron chokehold on the developers and we are too cool aid drunk to call it out.

Sure, let's have competition in the browsers on apple platforms then? Let the User choose what they want?

For some reason this is no longer the top post in the submission.

I am sorry, I don't understand. Will you be suddenly forced to install all the shit from all the sources? Nobody is forcing you right? How does your position change with the new one? Are you arguing having firefox and ublock on iphone will suddenly make it more pleasant to browse the web and you don't like it? I am sure you are not.

Can we please have a precedent set, once that starts I am confident other walled gardens will come down too. Also gaming consoles are not an essential part of life, at least not in my country where people usually can't afford to indulge in those luxuries.

So if Epic wins, will Epic be able to stop other stores from coming up? In what scenario do you see US (you, me, we) winning? The one where Epic loses or one where it wins?

I don't give a fuck about Epic. Let's get alternative app stores be present in the default app stores on my device. What are you even complaining about? I am on your side, are you on your side?

Apologies for the extreme swearing that ensues.

Wow, I would have hoped for better support from the HN community. Instead there are apologists after apologists. So what if Epic is big. Really, seriously shouldn't we have had alternative app stores available form the official ones. Why is this even a point of debate? All the time we hear stories of people one of our own getting fucked by these app stores and their lordship and now that we have an opportunity to make some noise, this is the response? Fuck that. Maybe we deserve these lords.

Fuck your security and fuck your walled gardens. Fucking no alternative browser allowed. Fuck that, fuck you apple and fuck you google. Fuck your monopoly and chokehold on the devs.