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throw4986327··on Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
Sounds like your relatives excel at generalizing to millions of people from a few individual interactions.

Jews were 100% ethnically cleansed from Gaza and the WB in 1948 - including from places where Jews have lived and owned property for hundreds of years, and this is maintained to this day wherever Arabs are in control. They were also ethnically cleansed from other Arab and Muslim countries.

The only places Jews can live safely in the Middle East are areas the IDF secures. It’s unfortunate that it has to be that way, when Arabs feel perfectly safe to live amongst Jews in Israel.

throw4986327··on Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
Jewish return to the Land of Israel has been ongoing for 2000 years. Either people who’ve historically been displaced have a claim or they don’t. Either way Israelis have a claim. You can’t choose a statute of limitations arbitrarily to suit only one side.

Besides, the Jews mostly paid for the land they built on (or they built on land that wasn’t privately owned). The fact that Palestinians need to threaten to kill anyone who sells land to Jews shows that Israelis don’t generally just steal Palestinian land. And you think killing people for selling land is justified.

There are 2 million Arabs living in Israel. How many live in areas under the control of Palestinians?

It’s absolutely not safe for anyone visibly Jewish to enter Area A. You are simply lying about this, and I will stop engaging.

throw4986327··on Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
Here are the facts:

Sale of land to Jews is punishable by death: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_land_laws

Jews who enter Area A are detained by PA forces and escorted out, or lynched. (With an exception of some token visits by activists). https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4940889,00.html

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-family-accidentally-en...

Zionism started more than 2000 years ago.

It was public knowledge that the Jews were removed against their will and are hoping to return (and have done so on different scales throughout history). This is documented even in Quran.

The Arabs knew when they moved in and built mosques on top of ancient Jewish holy sites that the land is contested. Still, the returning Jews by and large paid the occupiers to purchase the land fairly, and would happily pay Palestinians good money for more land in Judea and Samaria - which is why the PA needs to threaten to murder anyone who sells.

throw4986327··on Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
> This is an insane statement

The WB is divided into zones. Look this up. Areas A are under full control of the Palestinian Authority. On the roads leading into these areas are big signs saying that it’s forbidden for Jews to enter.

It truly is insane that in this day and age there are parts of the world that are banned for Jews simply for being Jews. In addition, it is a capital offence punishable by death for Arabs to sell property to Jews. True apartheid.

Ultimately, your line of reasoning comes down to the concept of blood and soil, that the race of a person gives them unique rights to land and to reject others who they claim don’t have the correct genes to live there.

Jews were perfectly happy to share the land fairly with the other residents - as they do now with Israeli Arabs, who have full equal rights, and are doing much better than Arabs in neighbouring Arab countries, in terms income and life expectancy.

throw4986327··on Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
The Arabs expelled 100% of all Jews in the territories they gained. To this day territories under control of the Palestinian authority are kept ethnically cleansed of Jews.

The Jews were migrating in accordance with local laws, and they bought deserted land at fair prices and developed them from the ground up into the big beautiful cities they are now. Until the British banned land sale to Jews and severely restricted migration (preventing Jews from fleeing the Holocaust), at the behest of the Arabs.

Any mass migration comes with a level of power in a democracy, and demographic changes are happening all over the Western world. Brussles is now majority foreign. London and NYC have Muslim mayors.

The Arabs just couldn’t take it that they will be one Middle Eastern country where Jews have significant authority and equal rights.

throw4986327··on Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
Looking at the largest population centers in Israel:

Jerusalem (pop. 1M): was 54% Jewish in 1922 and is 59% Jewish now. Jewish purchase and development of land there predates the British Mandate.

Tel Aviv (pop. 400k) - excluding Jaffa (pop. 50k): Pro-Palestinians like to conflate it with Jaffa because the two municipalities merged. But the vast majority of it is a city built on sand dunes purchased by Jews starting in the Ottoman era.

Petah Tikva, Rishon LeZion, Netanya, Bnei Brak (1M): Jewish cities built by Jews on land purchased legally.

Haifa (pop. 300k): was 54% Jewish in 1945, it’s 72% Jewish now.

The population of Nazareth is almost 100% Arab.

Ashdod was built on sand dunes 6 kilometres north of the town of Isdud, which was depopulated in 1948. The ruins of Isdud are still standing to the south of Ashdod.

We can acknowledge that some Arabs were forced out of some towns during the war - the Arab armies forced out every single Jew from the areas they conquered during the same war. However, the core of the conflict is the Arab side insisting that Jews have no right to any land between the river and the sea simply because of who they are.

You think that Jews of European heritage have some fundamental un-right to live in Petah Tikva?

Many Europeans and Americans oppose the immigration policies of their governments. Can they claim in 100 years time that the migrations were illegal?

throw4986327··on Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
In the 1922 British census of Jerusalem, Jews were a majority of the population.
throw4986327··on Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots
Albert Einstein legally traveled to British Mandate Palestine in 1923 to help set up the Hebrew University - on land that was legally purchased.

While some Arabs (and Jews) were displaced during the War of independence, most of Israel’s cities are built on land that was legally purchased, and the vast majority of Israelis immigrated legally.

Making it sound like all of the land was stolen because some Jews immigrated from Europe is like saying that Muslim migrants are stealing European land.