the_gipsy

There is a weakness in democracies too, that if they are too tolerant and allow too much freedom, this can paradoxically undermine democracy itself and lead to a collapse.

So in general, western democracies tend to respect human rights, sacrificing the greater good, because this in itself is considered a greater good.

If you think this means "our nation over other nations" then you misunderstood. It means "nation above all", e.g. "everything for the government, above citizens". That is, forget the individual, there is a greater good for which we must endure some hardship, trust me.

FYI, the promised land never materialized, historically.

No, they stagnate economically in corruption.

It doesn't merit more response, you can just look at the reality of actual fascist states. Economic stagnation, the most extreme corruption and incompetence, and cruelty beyond imagination. True masterminds.

The man that bought one of the most important social networks and has substantially changed its algorithm is nearly openly a nazi. It's not just the sieg hail the day of the presidential swear-in, it's everything he does to the world and the USA. And so do all the others.

> So you get the rude approach.

You're digging your own grave. Your president is handing over your empire piecewise to your adversaries for a fistful of gold. You must understand this: the only thing worse than communism, is fascism, because it's just corruption as a form of government.

It's the USA eating itself and trying to attack Europe, if anything. It's American fascist billionaires who own, buy, and steer these social networks.

You don't have the slightest clue what it means to be poor and in a financial hole. Like, it's impossible to explain to you.

Not the definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

You should really read those Wikipedia articles. Creating and explaining your own definitions and circular logic make you sound like a fool.

Right now, there are foreign actors helping right-extremist campaigns in Europe. Those parties' goal is ultimately converting to Authoritarianism. You can connect the dots yourself now.

> "the essential democratic freedom – freedom of expression – is both ingrained in and potentially harmful to democracy."

> > Because I always wanted to coin something. Please don't forget me.

/tinfoil-hat

There is a gray line somewhere between surveillance state and revealing all intel, which can serve national security and also diplomacy.

I agree on the philosophical part, letting our governments act opaquely under the veil of national security, inevitably leads them to turn on their citizens. But total transparency will be exploited by foreign powers (likely with domestic cooperation), until those that once defended it are removed from power.

The domestic government holding a monopoly on information is a threat, and foreign information can be a relief, yes.

Foreign misinformation is also a threat, and domestic government shutting it out can also be a relief.

So you have to ask yourself, where are we? Is Spain (or any European country that is not currently bootlicking, for that matter) a dictatorship that needs Freedom messages in a bottle from the USA, or is the USA directly subverting their democracies with espionage?

Why did the USA give millions to Morocco earlier this summer? Why did the Dept. of Homeland (so espionage) produce decade old evidence of corruption in a former administration that would be linked to the current one, at this precise time? Just asking questions here.

This is what's happening right now in Spain. Foreign interference (Ceuta, Dept. Of Homeland evidence...), followed up by foreign social media manipulation campaigns.

Currently, it looks like these campaigns will replace the current government.

This is a direct threat to democracy.