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Is it the principle or the price that makes people upset?

If the workers demanded a $1000 raise, is Lexmark just in firing those workers and hiring workers that are willing to work for less?

I love the idea of setting an hourly timer to do something physical like 50 jumping jacks.

I just don't seeing this ending well for inexperienced investors.

There's not the same amount of visibility and accountability in startups as with companies on a publicly traded exchange.

Someone will lose their shirt, sue, and set precendent for how startups should now behave with unsophisticated investors.

It's only "socially reprehensible" because you're holding the pen that draws the line.

Agreed. Elixir is my first foray into functional programming and the paradigm is obviously different from OO.

The Elixir community on both IRC and Slack have been incredibly patient and helpful for a hack like me. Both in solving specific problems and teaching how to solve future issues myself the next time around.

Why does "pay disparity" or income inequality matter?

Suppose two people start at 10. One person finds a way to go to 20 and the other goes to 11. The inequality has increased and the wealth of both people has increased.

Technically, this is a social improvement. But egalitarians would say this is a terrible situation because the gap has gone from 0 to 9.

Is $2/mo or $10/year enough to make a viable business and living?

I love, love this idea and how you've done it. But I'd be really sad to see the service take off and you can't support it because the model doesn't work.

I just worry about you charging a flat rate for something that has a variable cost (email). That's assuming you're using a service like Mandrill or SendGrid and not rolling your own.

Anyway, kudos. I love the looks of this and will probably be a paying customer several times over.

Fwiw, the Rails app I'm rebuilding into Phoenix IS in fact a payment system.

EDIT: I also believe Heroku's request routing system is built on Erlang.

I thought the same thing too. A couple responses:

1) The Elixir community is still in its infancy and the community is growing rapidly and flourishing. If the concern is there isn't an equivalent Elixir library for X gem, it's only a matter of time before it is. So please join!

2) I attended the Phoenix training at ElixirConf this week and an easy answer to registration and auth is "hey, write a plug". Once you dive into how straightforward plugs (1) and what (init/1, call/2) do, it's really simple.

You will appreciate the explicit nature of plugs compared to say, Rack middleware...

I'm rewriting a Rails app in Phoenix and overall, I've found it to be a really pleasant experience.

(1) http://hexdocs.pm/plug/extra-readme.html

Fortunately, you don't have to make the choice between performance and productivity any longer.

Elixir and Phoenix give you the great productivity and the performance of being run on the Erlang VM.

Prosecutors have almost absolute immunity. A prosecutor can intentionally cheat the system, get a conviction, put a person in jail, and if caught, there is no lawsuit that can be filed against them and it's almost impossible to get them disbarred.

There are incentives to cheat; as long as there are no ramifications for it, it will continue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqChMa4GV3w

Here are Joe Armstrong's (author of Erlang and early Ericsson engineer) thoughts on Elixir:

http://joearms.github.io/2013/05/31/a-week-with-elixir.html

I don't know enough about the internals of the languages to speak on that, but here's what has influenced my decision on choosing Elixir:

Community: smart people (who I respect) in the Ruby community are getting really excited about (and choosing) Elixir. People like José Valim, Dave Thomas, Bruce Tate, Chris McCord, etc.

BEAM and OTP: The Erlang VM and OTP have been battle-tested at Ericsson. It's known for having 9 9's of reliability and scaled WhatsApp to millions of simultaneous connections.

HEX: like Rubygems was for Ruby, Elixir/Erlang has a budding package management system via Hex. Hopefully this becomes the canonical source for libraries.

Phoenix: Rails popularized Ruby and became the framework of choice for quickly and pragmatically developing CRUD apps. Phoenix has Rails-like conventions in building an Elixir app and has built in support for websockets. This framework is built for today's technology.

Syntax: Coming from Ruby, the Elixir syntax is approachable and understandable. It's easy to jump into without having much prior knowledge.

Kinda subjective, but those are reasons why I'm excited and choosing Elixir to build future projects upon.

Wow, this is awesome. Thanks for sharing!

Do you have any blog posts on task-queues and email sending/receiving? I'm trying to learn Phoenix and Elixir by rewriting an app I have that does just this.

Sidekiq has been great as a background worker, but I'd like to try concurrency elsewhere.

I seriously doubt First Round will dogfood their own "data" and invest only in startups that follow these 10 learnings over the next 10 years.

I can't tell if you're be hyperbolic...

All negative comments directed towards Matt are surprising?

How so? What's so surprising?

I lost a lot of respect for Matt Mullenweg in this fiasco.

This comment in particular: http://www.pearsonified.com/2015/07/truth-about-thesis-com.p...

Pursuing the trademark cancellation further is just downright vindictive. It's not too late for him, to say, "I f-ed up and I've let this blind my decision making. I've asked the legal team to rescind the trademark dispute and we won't pursuing this any further."

Until that happens, this cloud will continue to hover over Matt and the WP community.

4th. I met James and Khaled in Austin pre-YC. Nicest guys in the world.

Couldn't be happier for them.

I don't know why people are downvoting this comment, but I'm having lunch with the OP next Wednesday so clearly there is some value here...

Send me an email.

I've thought about selling my side business, but I want to sell it to the right person.

I'm in Austin. Lemme know if you want to meet. My email is HN username + gmail.

I've thought about doing something like this for a while, I'm so glad to see this exist.

Kudos to you for open-sourcing. You also write great code that's well-commented.

> We want our pricing to align with the best product experience, and a flat fee would encourage marketplaces to pay out less frequently.

I don't understand how increasing pricing from a flat fee to a percentage encourages marketplaces to pay out less frequently. The cost is so nominal that it far outweighs any percentage fee.

> We don't require that they use managed accounts. Over time, I think standalone accounts will become the better option

Better for whom? [edit] My customers are not tech savvy and only want to deal with one fintech vendor, exposing Stripe to my customers seems like it's Stripe's best interest.

Seems like it would require the same amount of work to pay out $10,000 vs. $100,000.

Why scale the fee?

Does this apply to marketplaces/accounts migrating from Balanced? There was an assurance that Stripe would honor Balanced's pricing. https://www.balancedpayments.com/stripe/faq#will-our-pricing...

If you require marketplaces to use managed accounts then it's an extra tax, no?

If Stripe is charging 0.5% of funds paid out to managed accounts, does this mean you’re “double dipping”?

Ahh, you're right.

To make an ACH debit, you'd need to verify a bank account beforehand. And I don't think client libraries support a `bank account resource` w/o curling.

Maybe I'm missing something.

Will I have the ability to debit ACH w/o verification?

(I currently have this ability with Balanced. Also have very low fraud, chargeback, etc.)

Big WFIO moment.

http://scott.a16z.com/2014/03/24/were-fd-its-over-coming-bac...

pc, it appears that the Stripe client libraries do not support Balanced-like features.

i.e. ACH debits, marketplaces, etc.

Migrating over to Stripe sounds great, but having these libraries updated with the proper endpoints seems like a must.