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China was in recession/depression before shutting down their entire economy for almost 2 months and have barely recovered. They suffered a supply shock. And now because the entire worlds demand has declined, China is now suffering from demand shock. And foreign manufacturers are now FLEEING which adds to massive loss of permanent jobs. That’s on top of a debt overload and they don’t control the worlds main currency
Japan and Germany were close to recession before the virus hit. Plus they are mainly exporters. Plus automobile is their big export...which now the demand has collapsed around the world.
US comparatively is safer.
The reason we don’t have enough face masks is because we have moved all our medical supply chain to China. The reason we were able to do that is because during the Clinton administration we allowed US businesses to destroy US manufacturing capability by granting permanent normal trade relation with China.
I like how the liberal/Democrats always ignore China/offshoring during their discussion of economic crisis. (Probably because they benefited from the slave labors in China more)
But Russia is scarier!
China sees drop in new coronavirus cases; all new cases imported, March 22
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/fmz3d6/while_china_c...
Translated: On March 20th, A local community management issued a notice, stating that one of the unit has 2 patient found, the unit will be sealed and no one is allowed to enter or exit.
It essentaily means that they are starving to death in the room.
Don’t trust the Chinese government’s propaganda
On the other hand, US was growing a steady 2% and had record low unemployment before this. If US can flatten the curve, with only ~3000 cases thus far, US will recover quickly and come out way ahead. And the sideline cash will rush into US
To be shorting and attacking the economy and businesses during this time (all businesses are interconnected, especially ones that provide food/energy/medical supplies) and be so distrustful of efforts to help ramp up testing and saving lifes, it’s just wrong.
I happen to know many people who works in cruise industries and hospitality. These folks are worried sick right now. Those people are who you are shorting
Good news is that now all eyes are on the medical supply chains, and introduction of the medical supply drug act bill, we should see some supply chain move back to US.
Especially since Chinese government has threatened to withhold drug supplies to US https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... and has started a disinformation campaign suggesting US inserted coronavirus in Wuhan, brought up by the Chinese foreign ministry spokesman https://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-official-says-us-arm...
These are the companies you are actively shorting. Think about that. This isn’t the same as 2008.
What is the point not supporting crucial companies in the stock market? Are you really better off if target or chevron or Hilton goes under? And tons of people have no jobs and there no access to staples?
But if an Asian country’s cases quickly spikes, pretty sure Asia will be shut down in travel to US
https://www.chinalawblog.com/2020/03/international-manufactu...
- coronavirus have been shown to reappear in recovered patients in China (prob due to the unsanitary conditions in cities)
- they have welded people in their homes. How would they have tested these folks?
- 800 million people are under quarantine. Again, how do they test all these people? Plus it’s been shown that family members locked in a tight space transmit the disease to each other. And the entire family dies off.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Industry-in-focus/Virus-hit... 35% of 1,506 Chinese SMEs surveyed in early February expect to run out of cash within 1 month, 85% within 3 months. Chinese small business which account for 99.8% of registered companies in China and employ 79.4% of workers, according to the latest official statistics. They contribute more than 60% of gross domestic product and, for the government, more than 50% of tax revenue.
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/chinese-workers-refuse-g... Chinese workers refuse to go back to work
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/jpmorgan-now-expects-chi... JPMorgan Now Expects China Q1 GDP To Drop To 1%, Crash To -4% If Coronavirus Is Not Contained
Record fiscal deficit/gov debt - hard to judge without also looking at gdp + asset growth, which US is doing great in (stock, real estate). Also. US is safe haven for investors right now
Corp debt - record low interest rate.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Industry-in-focus/Virus-hit...
65% of 1,506 Chinese SMEs surveyed in early February expect to run out of cash within 1 month, 85% within 3 months.
Chinese small business which account for 99.8% of registered companies in China and employ 79.4% of workers, according to the latest official statistics. They contribute more than 60% of gross domestic product and, for the government, more than 50% of tax revenue.
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/jpmorgan-now-expects-chi...
JPMorgan Now Expects China Q1 GDP To Drop To 1%, Crash To -4% If Coronavirus Is Not Contained