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They're far from being able to do any such thing, so posing such milestone would make the field look stagnant and thus be a bad marketing and hurt the money stream. The "milestones" are chosen so that they are plausibly reachable in short time relevant to patrons/investors, because people working on this need to constantly demonstrate progress.
What does this mean?
Economy doesn't perform, but ideology has collapsed only in minds of ordinary people. Politicians, stakeholders and various media outlets are very much invested, and still push that the current course is the only correct way and the bright green future as designed is unstoppable. Reminds me of the arrogance of the ruling party slogans from before 90s.
Intel tried to get into GPU-like products 14 years ago. They promote their consumer Arc GPUs since 2022, and still almost nobody wants them. Is there a datacenter Intel GPU that some business wants?
The big money is flowing NVIDIA's way, and even if Intel can make a GPU, it won't be able to divert a big part of the flow, similarly to AMD.
> "They need to start somewhere in order to break ground"
Intel has big problems and it's not clear they should occupy themselves with this. They should stabilize, and the most plausible way to do that is to cut the weak parts, and get back to what they were good at - performant secure x86_64 CPUs, maybe some new innovative CPUs with low consumption, maybe memory/solid state drives.
No, relwin brought it up, and I ridiculed the criterion. I don't get your point at all, sorry.
MIC is not just the defense companies, read the name again - it' the complex made of industry and the military. And Eisenhower's point in warning against it is not about revenue of the industry part, but about influence of the whole complex on major decisions.
In 1990's there was a short dip in funding, but since 2000's, its growth caught back on, and it's getting close to a trillion dollars a year. That much money chases a lot of constituency and a lot of power. Millions of people are dependent on it.
Lots of failed theorists with that personality type/flaw as well.
How did you know before benchmarks were out? Did AMD say gaming performance will stagnate? (that would be very stupid thing for them to say).
In which applications is AVX-512 performance decisive? Video editing / 3D modelling?
For casual users, a good test if it's time to upgrade is - has the CPU speed, the memory speed doubled? If not, for most people, it's better to keep your old device.
For competitive gamers, smaller gains make sense, but it gets expensive fast.
Yes, the better energy efficiency allows 9700X to boost higher to get somewhat higher performance in multi-thread, but for some reason, gaming does not benefit noticeably. Zen 5 seems interesting for laptops and low-power client devices, but so does the new Intel Lunar Lake (for now, at least), so we have to wait for reviews and comparisons there.
> has not tested... floating-point computations, cryptography or ML/AI.
That is true, but small fraction of people care about these specialized workloads, it's overhyped in marketing. But if you care about those, I think you may be right that Zen 5 may be more interesting there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF_bMt9fVm0
On average, 9700X is few percent faster than 7700X, and has slightly lower consumption. Upgrading from Zen 3/Zen 4 not warranted.
The only way to do that is that we move to a place from which the computer processes appear accelerated, e.g. into a strong gravity well. That isn't very useful, because we do not have such a well nearby, as only very dense hypothetical objects can provide it (e.g. black holes), and it would not be compatible with life to move there.
Which makes me wonder, whether this way of achieving resilience against changes along the way is necessary. Maybe the data bits can be modulated directly onto analog current, and error resilience can be achieved by remodulating it on the analog level. Then, the emission would have as many bits as there are in the message, error-resilience (modulating, demodulating) would be done strictly using analog electric circuits.
One big point of making a microkernel as opposed to making a monolith is that you want to give other developers more freedom to develop, distribute, fix bugs on their own time schedule, while keeping compatibility with new kernels easily. In other words, not wanting to control what and when they do, and what users run on the kernel.
Monolithic kernel like Linux, with its constant stream of little changes in interfaces, creates problems for developers of modules, and this leads to selection - those who keep up and satisfy the kernel requirements get in, those that don't keep up or do not satisfy requirements, can't get in, and are degraded to developing against some old kernel version. This is a kind of control.
A real microkernel OS with stable interfaces would mean its developers do not want control of all the kernel-like servers, and allow even basic users to easily install and use many alternative user servers, as opposed to Linux kernel services sanctioned and controlled by the Linux distribution kernel maintainers.