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spinningleaves··on Outlaw Country
While this is getting away from the point of the story, I do have to ask; why does it always seem to be these types that are the most aggressive supporters of individualism?

If you want to go out to the middle of nowhere, wipe your ass with grass an live without any person or government's help/interference, that is totally your prerogative. But the irony of someone surviving off welfare checks, killing a man because of police inaction, and then suing the county for inadequate mental health support is palpable.

You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Mooching off of welfare programs and posting tough-guy memes while calling everyone else pansies and having a hard-on for rugged 1800-style living? Cry me a river.

spinningleaves··on Nuclear Reactor for Mars Outpost Could Be Ready to Fly by 2022
Again, this reactor design is different from an RTG, precisely because it is a reactor. RTGs like those used in the Cassini mission rely on radioactive decay to generate heat. They have a significantly smaller power output, on the scale of watts. In Cassini's case, PuO2 fuel was used, and the primary decay mode was alpha decay. These designs are great for long-term, low power missions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_ge...

Kilopower will utilize highly-enriched uranium fuel to power a fission reactor. This means that the atoms in the fuel will be sustaining a chain reaction of fissioning, releasing neutrons, causing more atoms to fission, and on and on. This is what generates heat in reactor systems. This design will prove usable for shorter, higher energy demand missions.

https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

An RTG is essentially a lump of fuel which sits and decays, generating heat. Kilopower's reactor would be an actual reactor, needing to manage reactivity, burnup, and maintain criticality. They are vastly different systems. For someone not in the field I can see how there'd be some confusion but please be less speculative on topics of which you're less familiar.

spinningleaves··on Nuclear Reactor for Mars Outpost Could Be Ready to Fly by 2022
Yes and no.

The Kilopower design is not an RTG (Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator). Those rely on the decay of a heavy element like plutonium to generate heat, which then generates electric power using a thermocouple.

Kilopower is making an actual fission reactor, which generates heat from the chain reaction of fissile atoms splitting each other. Another difference is that their design will utilize a linear-actuating sterling engine to convert the heat to electricity.

That being said, you're correct. The management of thermal flux and particularly discharging waste heat is hugely important to keeping this design working and efficient.

spinningleaves··on Nuclear Reactor for Mars Outpost Could Be Ready to Fly by 2022
Okay, so I'm not an expert, but hopefully a B.S. in nuclear engineering is enough qualification to answer some of the questions posed.

1st point; obviously the fantastic thing about nuclear power is the high energy density of the fuel, that's what makes it so attractive in the first place. However, a reactor sized for cars would definitely need some sort of refueling, at that size you'd already be very hard pressed to reach criticality with geometry and mass constraints. Something so small would be impacted quite a bit from burnup and fuel poisoning.

2nd point; the name of the game for nuclear is to contain radiological releases. While we accept other forms of pollution quite readily, there isn't really any amount of radiation discharge that the public is willing accept. Call it "too dumb" if you want, but the reality is that any risk of nuclear contamination is poorly received, just look at the public backlash pretty much any commercial reactor faces. This is despite the fact that coal-fired power plants release more nuclear contamination than nuclear plants. Millions of vehicles susceptible to high-impact collisions? That's a non-starter. There'd be no way to guarantee that radiation wouldn't be released to the environment, and I'd go as far as to say it'd be inevitable. Like you said, this wouldn't be another chernobyl, but we'd still be dealing with ridiculous amounts of activity. Your guess of it being less dangerous and local than current crashes is completely wrong. Any involved in the crash? Dosed strong enough to get acute radiation poisoning in minutes. First responders? Same deal. And then the winds/rain would scatter much of that contamination to the surrounding environment, where it would linger at dangerous levels for thousands of years. We're not even talking about the long-term problem of iodine or cesium, exposed nuclear fuel would give enough of an alpha dose to kill anyone near it.

3rd point; the waste solution is so tricky I don't even want to get into it. For all intents and purposes however, right now only one country in the world has a long-term waste storage facility, and it's Finland. Even if experts could agree that deep-geological storage is the best option, such an option is politically impossible for most countries. On-site storage is far from "trivial," and the dry cask storage employed by the US requires a pretty significant amount of engineering and monitoring. As for reusing fuel, it's not as easy as throwing spent fuel in a new reactor and calling it a day. It requires a pretty significant amount of politically contentious infrastructure and reprocessing, of which only a few countries (France, Japan I believe) have.

I'm a huge proponent of nuclear power, but if I'm being completely honest, making the case for it is getting harder and harder, even when only considering the technological aspect. There's lots of new and exciting designs, but I wouldn't bet on them to make a huge impact in the global energy makeup moving forward. Even for large scale energy generation, nuclear is heavily burdened by cost and political opposition. The idea of fission technology being usable as a fuel source for personal transport vehicles is laughable at most.