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sobhaobnONJ··on Job loss predictions over rising minimum wages haven't come true
Truthfully I agree but I'd argue this seems more like a reason to decouple healthcare from employment entirely. Such as with socialized medical coverage like you suggest.
sobhaobnONJ··on Job loss predictions over rising minimum wages haven't come true
An increase in spending is an increase in spending, it is still a part of the total compensation an employee has received. My point was purely that lensing the issue through minimum wage by itself seems like a distraction in terms of understanding employee wealth, I'm not arguing that employees should stop wanting more because they're getting enough.
sobhaobnONJ··on Job loss predictions over rising minimum wages haven't come true
That's not entirely true. Taxes on production and services are ultimately taxes on consumption, this is part of why many economists have advocated for a mix of raising income taxes on specific income brackets and having a more generous EITC.

You could of course do as you propose, but that same logic could also be used to argue that we simply shouldn't let healthcare providers negotiate with employers and instead restrict them to dealing directly with State entities (since otherwise the bargaining power becomes slanted against individuals).

Edit: I didn't clarify well, the reason I mentioned the point about production taxes is because many minimum wage employees work in places like Walmart that sell commonly needed items and thus some of the benefit is lost because you've increased costs for the people you're helping. In theory this isn't a problem for luxury goods but that's more complicated so I haven't talked about those much.

sobhaobnONJ··on Job loss predictions over rising minimum wages haven't come true
The people being hired are not the ones having their hours scaled back. If demand for labor rises at a natural average over time in an area then minimum wage could reduce scheduled hours while overall growth still creates job demand. It'd be more interesting to see the effects of minimum wage increases on the average yearly income for employees in the area for that reason.
sobhaobnONJ··on Job loss predictions over rising minimum wages haven't come true
I don't understand why this isn't a red herring. Minimum wage may be remaining stagnant but total employee compensation has been rising steadily, it's just that most of that compensation is in the form of spending on employee benefits like insurance. If people quit expecting employers to provide them with anything except for cold hard cash then you'd likely see wages increasing with time.

To expand a bit more on this, large companies in America can negotiate rates with the insurance companies they interact with (assuming they don't own one in house). This creates a scenario where a dollar into the insurance budget yields more than a dollar worth of value and so it makes much more sense to invest heavily in the insurance than in outright wages because a dollar paid to an employee only ever yields a dollar with of value to the employee.