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shirai

52 karma · joined September 8, 2009

I'm the CEO of MeZine Inc. which includes Orbs.com and CityMax.com. CityMax received best company in BC 2010 Award and 2nd best company to work for in BC Award. Previously I was the CTO of Suite101.com. I've been in the Internet industry for about 15 years now.
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shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Woe, that is ridiculous. Surprised nobody spotted that including me. Will get this fixed.
shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Actually, we already have custom domain support built in but we turned off the upgrade feature for now while we figure out pricing. It works though as you can see on this site: http://mominvancouver.com/
shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
I think I found it at greatdomains.com

Sunny

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Thanks for the honest feedback. I just want to clarify whether it was the "snap", the fact that editing happens inline or the editor toolbar that you found confusing and cluttered. Or something else.

Sunny

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Here's some demo orbs that we created.

http://honeymoon.orbs.com/ http://hrteam.orbs.com/ http://ultimate.orbs.com/ http://teacher.orbs.com/ http://mominvancouver.com http://foodies.orbs.com/ http://mominvancouver.com/

Sunny

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Thanks, that's a great idea and something we are considering as well. It would be nice if we could make money off of premium features but the ad-sharing would let us at least pay the bandwidth costs.

Sunny

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Thanks for the feedback.

Would you mind giving us some examples of sites where you like how they collect feedback?

Sunny

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
We have a quick video (30 seconds or so?) but didn't stick it up yet. Maybe we'll try and stick that in today though.
shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Forgot to answer the question.

Feels like we have two options for making money.

1. Focus on the viral aspect and charge for upgrades like backup, long version control history, more templates, more pages, PDF conversion, larger file uploads, etc.

2. Focus on the enterprise and make it like an Enterprise wiki. Make features more suited for Intranets. Make it a pure pay product. We feel we have a big win in this field for the typical user because of our obsession with ease of use.

Sunny

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Hmm... we do full testing and many of our staff, including myself, use it with Chrome regularly (and also Safari). I think this may be a bug only appearing in the Dev version of chrome which we aren't targetting.

We are trying to differentiate ourselves with the table of contents on the right. It's hard to tell when you start (because there aren't many pages) but the tree-like Table of Contents (with drag and drop) is great for larger sites.

Our staff site, for example, has over 100 pages but is nicely organized. The software can support 1000 page sites. Probably more but we haven't tested performance over 1000.

Sunny

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
My company built and owns CityMax which is a website builder for small businesses. We have about 20,000 paying customers there and are profitable. This is more of a "can we change the world?" effort.

One of the key differences we believe is the table of contents on the side. Blogs are a modern representation of newspapers, magazines and other periodicals. One of our goals is to see if we can make a modern representation of books.

One nice thing that we have found is that many of our staff actually have multiple sites for different uses. We use one each for our two companies. I've got one between my wife and I. I have one to keep personal notes. It doesn't feel like we are using them just because we built it either.

In many ways I use it like a wiki but organizing a wiki has always been a weak point for me. I always end up with orphan pages with no links to them. Also, wikis are almost categorically ugly for some reason. On the other hand, blogs are often beautiful.

One of our design goals was to be "beautiful." Please check out our template designer. We think it might be one of the best in the industry (blog, website builder, or otherwise).

Sunny

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Urgh. Thanks.

Just in case people are worried, apart from the home page, our app has been well tested on all the major browsers on three platforms (Mac, Win and Ubuntu). We just changed the homepage yesterday, partially for putting up this notice on Hacker News.

I'll get it changed to an image and hotfixed.

Sunny

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
We'll get that fixed.

We use it for our staff wiki at both of our companies. We've tried wikis before but found they were lacking in usability, particularly the problem with keeping it organized.

shirai··on Rate my startup: Make stupid simple websites for work, play and life.
Please let us know what you think about our startup.

It's the best of a wiki, a website builder and a book.

We built this in response to our own needs. We needed a way to collaborate and publish but wikis weren't working for us. They were easy, but not easy enough and they are typically too ugly to use as a primary website.

The key innovations for us were:

Snap Editor: Click anywhere on the page and you edit in place. The page "snaps" around the text to let you know that you can edit. Drop dead stupid easy. Table of Contents: In wikis, you end up with orphan pages. In normal website navigation, you are usually limited to only around 5 pages before it gets messy. The table of contents on the right makes sure you never lose a page and that you can organize up to 1000 pages. It is drag and drop all the time.

Site Decorator: Wikis (and many website builders) are ugly. We built a template designer that we know works because even our developers were making good-looking websites.

One thing we aren't sure of is how to sell our product. Is it a new type of wiki? Is it a simple website builder? Curious what you guys think.