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This is such a non-information. My worst-case price for Tesla is 0. However, Morgan Stanley's and my base case are significantly above 0. If the price spread of your cases is multiple hundred US dollars, you really have to ask yourself if you're a useful analyst.

Yeah, I was not arguing about liability. That's the misunderstanding. I was not concerned with liability. And you're completely right wrt liability.

After another read of your post: You seem to argue a totally different point. I did NOT say Tesla was not liable if their AP causes a crash in a fully self-driving mode. They are. My point in the original post was a different one.

Yes, really, though.

If autopilot (or similar system) are safer than humans, then this should get reflected in the statistics. Just because people die in a crash with a self-driving car (even if that software was at fault), is NOT sufficient evidence. What matters is the net effect!

Even as a shareholder (and someone who may have suffered from the punishment for Elon Musk): I agree.

I am an Elon Musk supporter (if that makes any sense as a term) and shareholder in Tesla.

But he lied when he said "funding secured" and when he accused the diving expert of being pedophile. That was unacceptable behaviour. And he deserves to be criticised for it. However, Elon Musk needs to be judged in shades of grey - not in black and white as it is so common.

I disagree with respect to one point: The death is insufficient evidence. What matters is relative safety (compared to non-self-driving cars). You cannot only count the hits but ignore misses. Or in this context: Avoided crashes need to be considered as well.

"no need to get all SJW about it"

I cannot express how much I detest this phrase or the similarly vile German equivalent 'Gutmensch'. Turning the good impetus or empathy into something negative is just evil. One should really rethink the use of the term.

Not to say the 'toxic masculinity' is not a terrible term as well since it can easily be misunderstood as (any) masculinity being toxic -- not just exaggerated, testosterone-overcharged masculinity.

SDC could have been a company since it was mentioned next to Waymo. I stumbled as well for a few seconds.

Many, to answer your question.

You sure?

> Deals are made in UK because English law is really, really good.

Can you elaborate?

For those people with shares it matters. New information changes share price. Old information tends to be reflected already.

Article from October.

Not that discussion again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot

What makes you think nuclear has less severe externalities?

And I am not even including in my considerations that countries have totally mismanaged the storage in the past (e.g. UK dumping it into the ocean, Germany dumping it into an old mine etc.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_radioactive_waste_m...

So, so, so dumb. Dumb decision. You should subsidise renewables and tax all others for the externalities.

You put a referral code in the URL? I find that somehow objectionable.

Kara Swisher is a terrible interviewer. She was terrible here [1], and she was terrible in this interview. You have an hour with Elon Musk and you ask what BFR means again (knowing the answer) and don't know that they attempt to catch fairings? Why does she always look like she did not do her research? Why do I never learn anything new if she interviews?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsixsRI-Sz4

From 2016. Add that year to the title.

That's a joke, right? Right?

"The CEO or COO are inconsequential."

That's just absolute BS.

Sorry, this is not worthy of being on HN frontpage.

Weird title. The title seems to suggest that the stock soars because of Musk's "naughty by nature" tweet. It soared because of the SEC agreement (as stated correctly in the article) and the impressive production numbers.

I am an engineering PhD student. I have all the rights to call myself an engineer.

But Musk does a thousand times more engineering than I do. And he knows a thousand times more about engineering than me. Or anyone of my colleagues.

He can surely also be considered an engineer.

UBS cannot be trusted in this matter. They have tried to prevent other Tesla reports from being published. Something is very fishy.

HyperChange takes them apart in this video[1] on the UBS profitability estimates for the model 3.

And even if HyperChange generally has a positive view on Tesla, their reporting is based on facts.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Uz5gPQ6Bs

It is unlikely that Tesla sues them. Their statements made Tesla look good, and not bad.

Reinforcement Learning is Machine Learning.

> God created man in his own image. Man created AI in his own image.

Man created god(s) in his own image. Man created AI in his own image.

Why? I found his answer appropriate.