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But I don't think it's that good to keep playing the rat-cat game.

> the credit card companies are always very worried about their brand image, so they are not interested in any negative publicity.

Letting the bad guys keep doing what they do while putting it's own customers under shadow, to me, it sounds like the credit card companies are helping the bad guys.

As a Chinese myself and a credit card user, I'm more worried than you guys do, because we are more likely to receive that kind of treatment (compromised credit card and computer chips etc). I really hope somebody can teach those bad doers a unforgettable lesson.

Why don't you guys consider to expose this by suing the bad manufacturer? I believe this could help other truely honest manufacturers both in and outside China to beat the wrong doers.

I think as far as current tech goes, even if somebody gets 100% cloned, their mind (data in the brain) would still be different. That of course is when The 6th Day[0] (Brain data copy + clone) will never become a reality.

Here is a video about cloning dogs you may interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmHYUvmiXQI

[0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0216216/

Let me guess. Did you just been triggered by the $2 a week diet thing? Then don't be, I'm actually not very proud of it.

I did it from time to time for about few weeks so I can quickly lose my belly fat. And I don't like it at all let alone recommending it.

> the most useful metric I know of to look at is the affordability ratio

Of course. I just searched a bit, the DPI seems to be ￥7,815 or $1,137 for the first quarter.

However, I don't have any information other than that, and dig the information needed is too hard for me :(

Then I'm glad you have escaped from all those problems :)

BTW: The population is the total number.

Chenzhou: Population (2001): 4,559,600; GDP (2015): ￥201 billion. For comparison, Our city: Population (2017): 1,700,000; GDP(2017): less than ￥120b.

I've searched the price of fast food restaurants in your city, the result: https://t.dianping.com/list/chenzhou-category_189

Base on that, I can see the average price is ranging from ￥13 to ￥45 ($2~7) per person. So I guess $5 is really pretty decent.

However, I have lived in few other cities in China, I know that live in another city other than your hometown is expensive, let alone when that city is in another country. Simply too many extra costs (like Rent and education).

Speak of educational cost,

> Education is super expensive if you don't have a hukou (which foreigners will never get).

It's actually location depended. You may want to talk with local schools or departments see if they can help you with it or at least give you a direction. It likely results a cold shoulder but you won't get warm one if you don't try. Plus, ask them directly is better than complaining online.

Also keep in mind, not many Chinese teacher can speak English. So.

From the comment section of that very video, I quote:

> Freda Du: are you guys comparing one of the most expensive chinese cities with the average american (suburban/rural) rent? And comparing fine western dining (cuz apparently you think the $2 chinese meals will kill westerners..) with dollar menu? I lived in Shanghai, LA and NYC, let's make a major city to major city comparison here.. a single metro ride is $0.5 in shanghai vs. $2.75 in NY and $1.75 in LA (which goes nowhere); cellphone bill costs $10 in China and $40+ in the US; you can get food as cheap as $2 in a sit-down restaurant in China, but at least $10+tax&tips in America; have you guys just been living in China for too long and forgot how damn expensive america can be? the small Chinese cities can be dirt cheap too but you guys think it's too inconvenient for people who refuse to speak Chinese. so there you go.

For your reference, I'm living in a small city in China, where ￥15 can supply my diet-mode food for a week, for better diet, that's ￥22 ($3.2 dollar) (Just to clarify, If however I don't want to diet, then that's ￥50~80 or $12 a week). That's even when I buy most of my foods from supermarket[0].

The key point is, you CAN live an expensive life in China if you want to, but you don't HAVE to.

[0] https://i.imgur.com/X9Gm4Zl.jpg

I think what the government is trying to do is to increase people's income, so it can match the level of housing bubble.

Many people think it's a goal that is to hard to reach in time (year 2025 or so), but the overall direction is about right.

However, all of that is before the trade war thing. So what does the future actually holds is a bigger unknown by now.

It's rather a regulation, not law. And I don't think it's apply to your case, because the regulation I mentioned above only limit recent transactions.

That is, if you brought a house, from the time of the purchase, you can't re-sell it within 2~5 years. After that, you're free to go.

If that old condos is not within the limited time, then maybe it is real that the house have no resale value. In that case, as far as I know, the only option is to wait until local government re-sell (re-develop) the land.

But don't take my word, I don't know every policy of every local government. If you really curious, ask the question on a Chinese website like zhihu.com, then maybe you can get some information that is more useful.

> what we have in China is much worse than japan since artificial intervention is much deeper and prolonged

I think it's the question of whether or not it's going to pop.

If the housing bubble did popped, then we are screwed a big time, worse than what Japanese once had. But if it didn't, then the leverage is still there and economy maybe low at worse, but stable.

I don't think everything is concluded at this point, because SSE 000001[0] is showing sign of very slow recover. And the censorship on economic news in my opinion is rather one effort to preventing domino effect.

[0] https://www.google.com/search?ei=P3KzW_6LF4fUwQKM77uYAg&btnG...

Actually, before the trade gone bad, many local governments in China already installed some limits on the housing bubble. For example, in some place, you can only buy house, but unable to sell it. This will limit how many money can flood back to the economy.

So far, that policy is effective. After all, nobody want to play the Japanese character during what's after the "Japanese economic miracle"[0]. And the housing bubble thing is like textbook example of "How not do your economy".

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_economic_miracle

So if my understanding was correct, by applying the treatment (Immune Checkpoint Therapy I guess), immune system will clean cancer cells like they're doing a everyday task?

Well, then I hope one day that treatment will become cheap enough so it can benefit everybody.

The thing is, in China, you are not just married with the person you in love with, you also married to the family of that person. (And at the same time, that person is married to your family as well)

I remember when my colleagues was talking about whether or not they're letting their wife to manage their money. One person brought up "I've paid ￥XXXXXX for the 彩礼[0], so I'm not allowing her to limit how I spend my salary".

The idea was, as the man of the house, you provides, so you have some "power" over other family members. And that 10,000 USD you may need to pay, is the way of showing that you can provide.

Of course, all of that above is the "modern" explanation. In the ancient time, where the gender inequality is much severe, the Bride Price is mainly served as compensation to the female's family. Because after been married, the female will technically "leave" their own family and become a part of the male's family. That's why "Getting Married" is called "出嫁" at the female side, where "出" means leave (her own family).

One more thing, except for 彩礼[0], we also have 嫁妆[1] which is something that female's family will provide (technically to their own girl, though).

If you want to dig deeper, checkout one[2] Wiki page (If you can read, the Chinese version is better). If you're living in China, better ask your local Chinese friends, I bet their information is more accurate and detailed than the Wiki page.

Hope you have a happy marriage.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride_price#China

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowry#China

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_marriage

And (For most of the time) easier to park compare to a car.

Funny. Why you guys think China is Communists?

As a Chinese myself, in my eyes, the whole Communism thing is nothing more than a gimmick. A gimmick to keep public calm while the top heads fighting for domination at the back side of the TV camera and newspapers.

Ever heard of State capitalism?

Cyber Security Law of the People's Republic of China[0] give it a read. On the surface, it's like GDPR or other similar data regulation, but focus on different purpose.

The law basically gives the China government a legal foundation to block any service that does not comply with it, and most foreign service does not.

If you DO completely obey the law however, then you can operate in China. Amazon.com for example, can be accessed directly in China. But the law was very restrict and tricky, for most companies (Twitch for example) it's not worth the trouble.

(Maybe you don't know, China's game streaming service are heavily controlled: you could only stream few games that are selected by the platform. Streaming illegal game that is not approved by the authority (Battlefield for example) is not allowed and likely results a ban)

BTW: Do we have any international treaty that can prevent political censorship?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Internet_Security_Law

There are difference between backing and acquiring. Plus, GitLab is open sourced and self-hostable.

If Google wants to throw some of their money on something that end user can fully control, then why not be happy about it?

How about I put it this way: Tech companies (at least in the beginning) didn't realize how easy it is to turn some people into mobs.

Also notice, I'm not saying people are stupid so don't blame the business model.

I rather going to say: Go blame the business model, and while you at it, don't forget to also notify people that maybe they should be more wiser when posting stuff.

> The problem is the business model based on the manipulation of individual behavior.

I don't think this is the right target to blame. The much deeper reason is people ARE stupid, while think they are clever and correct. You, me, all the others included. And at the same time, the education once applied to us, failed. Simply put, it's not a technology problem, it's a sociology problem.

Around the year 2002, when I was connected to the Internet for the first time, I thought it was a magic place where you can discuss with people on a topic until the truth emerges and learned, then everybody come to a conclusion and live happily ever after.

That thought was the very first few which been destroyed. Because I instead found people are more likely to turn discussion into a "clan war" and mob each other instead. And that was long before Twitter or even Google is a thing.

Here is a book that many people may already read, The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind: https://www.amazon.com/Crowd-Study-Popular-Mind/dp/143410055...

I've watched a video[0] from Fox News few months ago, the key point been the "unfair trading" problem should be addressed through WTO rather than direct tariffs, and those tariffs maybe against WTO's rules.

Also, many people here maybe don't know, China is suing the U.S. for those tariffs. Maybe wait until it played out, the everything will be a bit clear.

I don't know how people in the U.S. view this trade war, but in China, many people already start to treat it as a new normal now after realizing it will be a long lasting one. Jack Ma for example, believes it will last for ~20 years.

I also watched another video[1], which is a voice recording from a seminar, the speaker was Jin Yi Nan[2], who is one of the "Hawks" in China. In that recording, other than trying to calm the listener (mainly business man I assume) down, he made few points, which been (I oversimplified it, somebody can do a full translation of the recording if interested):

- We (China) had problems, but the U.S. also had problems. At the same time, they (The U.S.) had advantage, we had ours. We're actually chained together (trade war will be bad for both, and they are hurting themselves while we facing the challenge).

- Chinese business should keep trying to enter international (including US) market and make investment, regardless the trade war.

- Trump's idea is frozen at '40s, and we (China) will be more open (more participation in trading and welcome international investment).

I think it sort of reflects the idea of some people inside the China government, or at least showing how the government want people to think of the trade war.

On the bright side, by the time all of this ends, it will be a very good topic to discuss with our future high-schooler kids.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGbcsBfPF0g

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8svRtTAw_10 (It's in Chinese)

[2] https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E9%87%91%E4%B8%80%E5%8D%97 (Only Chinese version available)

Sneaky? Take look the side-by-side comparison, I found the right (wider) one is easier for my eyes.

Just a side question: Did you also happen to found that you're more likely to going into a store when walk by it compare to drive by? (assuming you can park your car right at the spot and no charge)

> Facebook and Google keep trampling with the so called "rights" of people successfully by peddling "free stuff"

I don't think you get this correctly.

Many people use Gmail is because it's stable and came with Google Account, so they sign up conveniently.

Plus, not many people still using email as their main day to day communication method these days. After all, there are many specialized tools out there to pick (For example, some people may use Slack for work, and Facebook for friends etc).

So, I think it's not because $50/year is expensive, rather, it's because many people don't care anymore.

> It boils down to trust. Do you trust Google? Do you trust Apple?

Why don't boil down even further? How comfortable you are when you put your own security on other people's hand? Do you trust others will protect you no matter what? Do you trust others will completely be honest with you no matter what?

I don't know about you, but for me, I always trying to figure out the detail of the thing that will be rely on, even it's just a door alarm. Only after that, I can then tell whether or not I trust it.

If I understand you correctly, I can say that your "trust" is actually a form of trade off: I want to use the awesome __________ Phone, so I can ______________. For that, I could take some shit from __________ as long as they don't ______________.

However, that just means you've convinced yourself to trust something, hardly anything else.

And speak of "business model", many company was cool and awesome when it's young. Things change.

So, if it's a question: Do you trust Google? Do you trust Apple? Both no. I kept my file encrypted when uploading to Google Drive, and I don't use iCloud at all. I have 16 different Google accounts and 3 Apple accounts, each for different things, and I replace most of then every two years (Or when Google start to ask me for my phone number).

My advise: Don't dip yourself into that situation when you have to make a choice like that.

However, the most Apple's system is close sourced, meaning if they want to do something, you're still defenseless. There are no Eden now, you need to protect yourself.

People's will towards privacy is still weak, they don't know what those company could do with that amount of data. Ignorant, that's why those company keep doing what they do.

It's just like running a restaurant, as long as people can't see disgusting thing in their food, then everything will be fine and dandy, no matter how unhygienic the kitchen was.

Sad.

But now, think this whole thing in this way: Should GitHub block them because of all that?

Oh, thanks for the heads up. I thought it's for bugs only.

Create news, hope GIMP can use that money to work out a better and intuitive design.

For example, currently, many Filters don't have previews (Or the preview window is too small), which make apply them become a slow try and error game.

Also, the Text in the picture can be hard to select, as sometime you mistakenly select the underlying layer instead of the text.

Also again, Filters cannot be directly applied to editable text. Sure, GIMP will convert the rasterized text back to editable text, but doing so will discard all the applied Filters.

Maybe the candidate just trying to show their passion and they just not completely trusted you, so they're not sure about the answer.

Or the candidate may have just failed another interview hours ago because he said he enjoyed working 8 or 12 hours a day, and lose the faith of humanity all together.

You'll never know why they've generated that answer if you don't ask a follow up question.

I once trying to dig out the crime rate (not murder rate) of our city in South China, at least trying to have a grasp on what's going on. (TL;DR: and failed)

The only related data that I (as a citizen, not insider) can found is in the annual report published by the local court, which basically just a statement on how many criminals the court have prosecuted, only a number, no detailed categorization.

I also searched for the "population" of the local prison, the only data I can found is inside a news article about prison location transfer published on the Ministry of Justice's website few years ago, which stated "All XXX prisoners are successfully transferred".

None of the data is reliable enough to calculate the real crime rate of our city, as the local and prison may also handle cases from other cities, vice versa.

Because of all that, the value of my little "research" is far less than having a small chat with a friend of mine who work for the local police department.

Maybe this also the reason of why rumours in China got it's charm.