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rich-cartwright

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Co-founder of Fella (W20), a telehealth clinic for men's obesity.

richie@joinfella.com

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rich-cartwright··on Ask HN: Who is hiring? (December 2021)
Fella Health (YC W20/S21) = telehealth clinic for men with obesity

location = fully REMOTE

role = founding engineer

you'll take over work from our technical co-founder, executing in both growth & product teams. This role is a critical part of the broader founding team because you'll build the technical foundations of the company for the coming years.

feel free to drop me a line on richie @ joinfella . com

link here: https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/Fella?utm_source=NzppYKZdY5

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
This is the same ineffective trope said repeatedly without grounding in practical solutions which help real people get to a healthier weight.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Well written.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Yep we've actually had that happen already. Happy to help if you'd like.

To reiterate thought: I have nothing against these programs, from the outside they look really solid & I overall really support the direction of treatment.

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Thanks for sharing, important to hear anecdotal evidence.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
I feel like this is a pretty bold statement, and I'm not sure how much evidence there is behind this.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Understood and good points. Thank you for the candor: I got caught up and quickly typed a throwaway comment. Definitely my bad.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Spot on.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Really interesting, thanks for sharing.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Didn't know this! Assume it's this study: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02195-1

Was posted on HN 4 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28239113

(in case other people want to check it out)

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Definitely an area with compelling evidence. Lot of uncertainty though.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
They did! Spoken with the founder.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Thank you for the support! Where in the world are you based btw? Always interested to follow the approvals of Semaglutide.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Makes a ton of sense, and really helpful to know. Thank you.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Understood. I thought the easiest way to do this would be to link to the articles which talk about this in more detail. Should probably have added a small paragraph which talked about the bio of it.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Good to hear you'll be talking about it your endocrinologist.

Couple things:

Injectable Semaglutide was first FDA approved in 2017 as Ozempic. Wegovy is also injectable Semaglutide. The key difference is the approved dose: Ozempic is 1.0mg, Wegovy is 2.4mg. The FDA approval is also very important for future insurance remibursement.

Semaglutide is a GLP-1 RA. These medications stimulate a receptor in your body which results in three main effects: 1 - Slowing down gastric emptying so food stays in your stomach for longer (this is thought to be why there is sometimes nausea when starting the medication) 2 - Making you feel full by working on your central nervous system 3 - Managing glucose control (which is why it's used for people with diabetes too)

[1] gives you a great summary of the field up to now and how it works.

[1] https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/15/gl...

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Biologically: mostly similar, although some important hormonal differences. More research coming on this.

Psychologically & socially: very different.

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
We're starting to do more research into hormone-based treatments. We definitely have hesitancy as hormone treatments are a bigger life decision, and telehealth regulation is murky. We'll look into it more.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
The doctors prescribe both GLP-1s & meds like Phentermine, among others. I just didn't wanna list them all out!
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
We plan to store it until we expand to more states. If you'd like us to delete it, send me an email on richie@joinfella.com & I'll sort it.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Interesting to hear this personal experience.

If you're interested in some research behind this:

"Long-term persistence of hormonal adaptations to weight loss" - [1] and [2] are both interesting papers on this. With the summary being that weight loss results in prolonged changes in your hormones associated with increased appetite and thus weight regain. This results in a strong negative feedback cycle.

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22029981/ [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5764193/

tldr: our bodies make it v difficult for folks!

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Really nicely put.

Yep we're British founders so would love to expand to Europe in the future. Sadly won't be for a couple of years though - lots of work to be done first in the US!

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
It's one important cause - although "food addiction" is interestingly quite controversial in the research space, and the literature is fast growing here.

It's certainly something we tackle head on in our program.

But food addiction is not representative of everyone's struggles.

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
You're 100% welcome here. Would love it if you wanted to sign up.

Or if easier, you can drop me an email on richie@joinfella.com and we'll sort you!

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Really sorry about this. We tried to make this clear in the post, but you're right we can definitely make this clearer on our website.

Before launching on HN we haven't had an non-Texas traffic so there are some bits we need to change to our infra!

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Thank you Brian! Appreciate your support.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
We're definitely a big proponent of a psychological approach for a lot of Fellas. And "food addiction" is a controversial but rapidly growing area of research.

That said, important to state a psychological-only approach sadly isn't sufficient for the majority of people.

I've never looked for research on this, but the environmental & social pressures are definitely believable why they may produce this outcome. I also wonder how important selection effect is here for your Bondi Beach example.

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Important to hear this. I'd say there's a huge lack of empathy (understanding that someone can have a very different experience) in this space because of how it's tied in with society's take on individualism & moral responsibility.
rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Interesting to hear!

"hunger" is a simple word for a pretty complex mix of biological, psychological, and environmental factors.

rich-cartwright··on Launch HN: Fella (YC W20) – Tackling men's obesity using medication and coaching
Really nicely put.

I've wanted to bring up how physicians treatment of depression has radically changed in the last few decades (to have a much greater appreciation of the medication-assistance), but I didn't want to bring it up myself as I thought it may be too confusion/controversial.

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